Trailer prices?

[Cherryblossom]

I’m currently saving to replace my old 505 that was going to cost £5k to fix ?. I know the market has been super crazy, with prices going through the roof, but, much like with horses, I’m seeing a lot advertised that seem to have been for sale for a while. If anyone has bought or sold recently I’d love to hear what sort of price things are actually going for (by pm if you’d prefer, or as a % of asking price!).
My budget is currently ~£4k, but I can keep saving. I’d love to get at least a Mk2 506 or similar. I’m selfishly hoping that with trailers being a luxury item, there might be a drop in prices coming as people sell theirs off.

 

[Annagain]

Can't help with prices but it's definitely worth saving a bit more for a Mk2 if you need to as there were so many issues with the Mk1. You might also be able to trade in your 505 if you go to a dealer who also services as it will be worth their while to do the necessary work and get it back on the market. Most of the cost to you would be labour, they can do it in their own time and still make a profit. My local trailer man does this and his second hand trailers are in high demand. He's taken some right back to the frame and still made money on them.

 

[Hormonal Filly]

They’re still so expensive! Although have seen a few cheaper on Facebook Marketplace.

I have a 506 MK1, it’s been reliable in the last 8 years. It needed a new full jockey panel due to corrosion last year and will eventually need another panel but it’s getting on. An Ifor Williams stocklist said it was probably worth keeping my MK1 and upgrading the panel/s in the future to the MK2 panels, rather buying a newer trailer. I think the main difference between models is the roof and front which isn’t a massive job to change.

A friend has the HBX and that’s a lovely box. I can dream!

 

[Cherryblossom]

Can't help with prices but it's definitely worth saving a bit more for a Mk2 if you need to as there were so many issues with the Mk1. You might also be able to trade in your 505 if you go to a dealer who also services as it will be worth their while to do the necessary work and get it back on the market. Most of the cost to you would be labour, they can do it in their own time and still make a profit. My local trailer man does this and his second hand trailers are in high demand. He's taken some right back to the frame and still made money on them.

My lovely husband decided to be helpful and sold my box for absolute peanuts! I went to collect a friend from the airport and in the time I was away he washed it, took pictures, advertised it and it was sold and away! ? He seemed surprised that there were people willing to travel from 3 hours away that day to collect it! ?
He has many other redeeming features though, so I’ve mostly forgiven him!

 

[Annagain]

My lovely husband decided to be helpful and sold my box for absolute peanuts! I went to collect a friend from the airport and in the time I was away he washed it, took pictures, advertised it and it was sold and away! ? He seemed surprised that there were people willing to travel from 3 hours away that day to collect it! ?
He has many other redeeming features though, so I’ve mostly forgiven him!

Ah.... To be fair a dealer might not have offered much more as they would have had to build in a profit margin.

 

[tda]

I just sold my 2007 or 2008 HB505 at the end of last year for £2500. I'd owned it from new, and it was in good used condition . I did have it fully serviced and some remedial work done before I sold it which cost me £700 which I know is daft but I wanted it to be right . The offside side rear panel was just starting to soften at the bottom.

 

[Annagain]

I just sold my 2007 or 2008 HB505 at the end of last year for £2500. I'd owned it from new, and it was in good used condition . I did have it fully serviced and some remedial work done before I sold it which cost me £700 which I know is daft but I wanted it to be right . The offside side rear panel was just starting to soften at the bottom.

The panel on my 2005 510 is too. My trailer man is keeping a close eye on it and says it doesn't need doing just yet but probably will next year. I've been toying with the idea of changing it but I would change the panel before selling it as I couldn't bear the thought of a horse going through it and everything else is really good on it so if I do that, I may as well keep it for myself. I paid £3,600 for it new and my trailer man says I'd get £2,800 for it or £3,0000 with a new panel which is ridiculous really! It's been really well looked after (serviced annually and had any work that's needed doing done immediately) but £800 in depreciation over 18 years is bonkers. Even with servicing, repairs and tyres I doubt it's cost me more than £200 a year on average.

 

[Cherryblossom]

Thanks for the figures- really helpful. I would consider a later 505/510 too. The friend who was going to repair my box was over the opinion that a properly repaired and maintained old 505 (Mine was 1997) is a far better box than the new ones. There’s just a (big) bit of me, that wants a box that looks newer after working hard to save this money!!

 

[Love]

I bought mine in July 2020 - a 2004 ifor 510 in good condition for £2200. A friend of mine has just bought (last summer) a 1999 510 for £3500 which was in worse condition than mine and has just had to pay a further however many thousand to have all the panels replaced. So definitely a big price jump!

Edited to add: MY last service revealed my panels are going to need doing in the next year or so but have been fine for the past 2 years

 

[Annagain]

Thanks for the figures- really helpful. I would consider a later 505/510 too. The friend who was going to repair my box was over the opinion that a properly repaired and maintained old 505 (Mine was 1997) is a far better box than the new ones. There’s just a (big) bit of me, that wants a box that looks newer after working hard to save this money!!

I get it. I would be the same. My trailer man, whom I trust implicitly always says the very last of the 505/510s were the best trailers IW ever made. Especially the 'classics' purely for the lockable jockey door and the shaped wheel arches (he thinks they reduce spray and protect the panels more.) As long as you go post 2005 505/510 and post 2012 506/511 you won't go far wrong.

 

[tda]

I also preferred the metal catches on mine, I think the newer ones were/are plastic

 

[leflynn]

I got a later 505 in great condition from a dealer in Cumbria (2hrs away) for £2600 18 months ago before prices went mad and its been great, I wanted a 506 but couldn't afford one

 

[Cherryblossom]

Spotted a lovely clean 505 classic for sale, so rang up- £5100 ? Probably worth it, if the box is as good as it looks, it just can’t afford it right now.
My new annoyance is people not putting prices on adverts- I can sort of understand it with horses (although I still dislike it), but why bother with a trailer??

 

[rextherobber]

Spotted a lovely clean 505 classic for sale, so rang up- £5100 ? Probably worth it, if the box is as good as it looks, it just can’t afford it right now.
My new annoyance is people not putting prices on adverts- I can sort of understand it with horses (although I still dislike it), but why bother with a trailer??

I don't understand advertising anything for sale then not saying how much you want for it...particularly those facebook horse ads, when every single comment is asking for price - just put it on the ad!

 

[Landcruiser]

Are you stuck on an Ifor? I reckon the new ones are much poorer quality than the old, even if they have more features. My big problem with them is the seeming inevitability of the panels rotting and having to be replaced. You definitely pay a premium for the brand name. I bought a Wessex Clubman in excellent condition for £1500 a very few years ago. It had a wood floor (recently replaced with ally) but has ally side panels that won't rot. It's light, solid, and has much easier and more practical catches than the Ifor ones, a single lever on each ramp, front and rear. Chassis is very similar to Ifor. They don't make them any more, but it's just an example of what else might be around. (The farmer husband of the woman I bought my Wessex from said he much preferred it to the brand new 506 standing next to it in their barn).

 

[Annagain]

I don't understand advertising anything for sale then not saying how much you want for it...particularly those facebook horse ads, when every single comment is asking for price - just put it on the ad!

It's because 'technically' Facebook doesn't allow the sale of animals so if you include a price the ad will be deleted and you and/or the group you've posted in face a ban. Including the price flags some sort of algorithm and draws Facebook's attention to it. People get round it by not including the price or writing it in code (e.g. using the carrots and a picture of a sailing boat or saying 'looking for a new home' to say 'For Sale')

 

[DeliaRides]

We got a 2007 505 for £2,700 just over a year ago, it had been very well looked after and was in good condition. 506s were just a big jump up in price at the time, I assume that is still the case.

 

[Cherryblossom]

Are you stuck on an Ifor? I reckon the new ones are much poorer quality than the old, even if they have more features. My big problem with them is the seeming inevitability of the panels rotting and having to be replaced. You definitely pay a premium for the brand name. I bought a Wessex Clubman in excellent condition for £1500 a very few years ago. It had a wood floor (recently replaced with ally) but has ally side panels that won't rot. It's light, solid, and has much easier and more practical catches than the Ifor ones, a single lever on each ramp, front and rear. Chassis is very similar to Ifor. They don't make them any more, but it's just an example of what else might be around. (The farmer husband of the woman I bought my Wessex from said he much preferred it to the brand new 506 standing next to it in their barn).

Not necessarily, but I’m in NI and we’ve overwhelmingly got IWs here. It means I don’t know any who has anything other than an IW, so I don’t know which are good and which aren’t. I also don’t know if it would then be a pain to be serviced- I imagine it’s one of those things where the people are out there once you look though!

 

[rextherobber]

It's because 'technically' Facebook doesn't allow the sale of animals so if you include a price the ad will be deleted and you and/or the group you've posted in face a ban. Including the price flags some sort of algorithm and draws Facebook's attention to it. People get round it by not including the price or writing it in code (e.g. using the carrots and a picture of a sailing boat or saying 'looking for a new home' to say 'For Sale')

Yeah, I get that, but I've seen loads where it's either on the video, or in the reply to the first person who comments asking...and I also include POA ads , if you're advertising for sale, just tell people the price!