Travellers like these should be shot.

[Jazzaria]

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/8...oses_licence_after_horses_taken_into_the_pub/

Watch the video!!! Pooooor pony!!! She's beating him for nothing and he has a short tail??? BABY PONY??? awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww that's horrible

travellers don't deserve horses if they're going to tether them in fields of ragwort with no water, tight headcollars and them ride them and beat them like that



Some people try so hard to get horses and they never end up getting one where as they have a surplus and treat them all like s**t.


Sorry for the generalizations and assumptions made here but that video has made me angry.


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[Kao]

Saw that.
They usually ride them as young as 1, well I've known them to. It's disturbing.
They arn't all the same, just the common/wannabe (aka; ******).

I have absolutely nothing against tethering, usually water trips are made (as well as food trips...sometimes). So long as they have water, tethering isn't bad. There's just as many perils of tethering as there is leaving a non-leather/field safe halter on in the field.

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It's tails looks short because they've tied it up.

 

[Kellys Heroes]

TBH as I've posted before I have biast opinions as Kelly was rescued from travellers obviously been beaten and roughly handled, but no idea what happened other than that (and we only know that through her reactions to things)
BUT then again I've seen travellers which treat their horses better than people who own them on livery yards etc...for some of the travellers their horses are their means of transport and they wouldn't want anything to happen to them!
But agree, I can't be doing with neglect or abuse from ANYONE
K x

 

[somethingorother]

My OH lives in bradford, and there's always loads of people running around bareback on very young ponies, trotting them up main roads and tethering them next to busy dual carriage ways. I hate seeing them tethered on every available piece of grass. Especially the mare and foal nearby to my OH's house. They never get to go for a run or play with other horses

But i suppose as long as they are given water regularly they all look quite well weight wise. Just hate to think of them all without shelter in this horrible weather. I think if you don't have anywhere to keep them (other than a dodgy council estate playing field) then they shouldn't be allowed them. And they should be stopped from breeding them. Similar sorts who keep their ponies nearby to our yard tethered one on some scrub land with no shelter, and it was found strangled to death by a walker. I don't turn out in a headcollar, so it would be pretty damned hard for that to happen normally.

Oh, and saw a miserable skinny looking horse in a rickety old cart loaded with junk tied to a lamp post on a main road outside a shop at weekend. You wouldn't even tie a dog there for fear of it getting loose. Stupid people.

 

[miss_bird]

OK i am not condoning what they did, but i have seem horses ridden into pubs on a fair few occassions and not by travellers, but without the excessive use of the whip.
Not all of them are bad but the ones that are do make us tar all of them with the same brush, but saving that there are many non-travellers that are just as bad and worse horse owners

 

[Tinseltoes]

That was disgusting treatment grrrrrrrr.Some travellers love their horse,other like to abuse them.

 

[Tickles]

I don't care who they are, totally unacceptable behaviour. I often wonder how we can get standards applied more evenly across all groups in our society, I'm not much of a one for moral relativism!

 

[zoeshiloh]

To proper travellers horses are more valuable than gold. We have a friend who is a traveller - he is fairly famous for breeding traditional horses, and his ponies are kept immaculately. Yes, they are tethered, but they do so responsibly, they all have buckets of water, piles of carrots, and hay when needed. They are moved everyday, and get exercised etc as well. Yes, they are sat on as yearlings, and ridden/driven as 2yo, but that is just their way unfortunately, although (and I am not condoning it) they do tend to trot/canter them up and down in straight lines in headcollars rather than force them into an outline and spend hours trotting and cantering circles and serpentines.

For every good traveller, there will be a bad one that mistreats and abuses the animals in their care, using them only for money. But, you can argue that that does not just stop at travellers and that a lot of 'normal' horse owners are just as bad, just perhaps not as publically ridiculed.

 

[marmalade76]

Very well said Zoe, totally agree.

 

[Kokopelli]

I could be worng but isn't it illegal now to tether a horse by the side of the road and you could call the RSPCA?

Does anyone know if this girl has been prosecuted for anything?

 

[picolenicole]

Thats just not on!!!! Why? Why would anyone want/feel the need to do that? Some people need to get back what they dish out!!

 

[Horsehead]

Did anybody else see the young boy attempt to kick at the ponies face, and then spit at it, a few times :-( sad.

 

[MerrySherryRider]

travellers don't deserve horses if they're going to tether them in fields of ragwort with no water, tight headcollars and them ride them and beat them like that



Some people try so hard to get horses and they never end up getting one where as they have a surplus and treat them all like s**t.


Sorry for the generalizations and assumptions made here but that video has made me angry.


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Its offensive to generalize about the travelling community, its thanks to their horsemanship that we have some very good breeding lines today.
Its just as unfair to generalise about showjumpers, who rush and overjump willing, talented youngsters. I have a BSJA mare, broken down because of idiots who jumped her into the ground to young. Wouldn't dream of tarring all SJ'ers with the same brush.

 

[tootsieroll]

I too have seen this , recently on our way to Bradford for a meal, a horse was on the main road, i stopped and caught the horse , called the R.S.P.C.A and waited for several hours , i also called the police , eventually 2 passing comunity officers said they knew where it had come from i took the mare as they were too scared too ,to the owners and yes they were travellers , not a thank you or anything just took her and tethered her back up near the road Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[V1NN]

I'd like to take that stick across her face! what was she trying to achieve by walloping him like that, evil person.

 

[nofie]

Did anybody else see the young boy attempt to kick at the ponies face, and then spit at it, a few times :-( sad.

I found that part really disturbing!

 

[TallyHo123]

I agree, not all are bad but when they treat horses like that it physically makes me sick.
It's wrong, totally wrong

 

[piggyinablanket]

I found that part really disturbing!

Me too, that was pure evil The child looks about 8?? What kind of person is he going to grow into Terribly worrying, and so so sad. I wouldnt normally generalise about groups of people ie travellers but I have seen so much of it at horse sales etc.

 

[Fairynuff]

there are enough non 'travellers' out there who do even worse. I hate the way all and sundry jump on the anti traveller band wagon. Get real, there is more bad handling and cruelty done by the 'normal horsey' people.

 

[sjmcc]

some people say that not all travellers treat there horses bad . show me one iv had horses 30 years n theyr bad b......ds alright even there dogs get beaten . now on the other hand a gypsy i beg maybe to differ . but the ones we see are low life scum bag *****

 

[piggyinablanket]

there are enough non 'travellers' out there who do even worse. I hate the way all and sundry jump on the anti traveller band wagon. Get real, there is more bad handling and cruelty done by the 'normal horsey' people.

I totally agree. horse abuse is certainly not limited to the travelling community. I have watched some fantastic horsemen who are travellers/gypsies! I just think that certain groups have a different attitude to horses. I would have had the same opinion if the child lived next door to me.
But, I just dont see 'non-travellers' trotting baby cobs in baling twine for a bit around a sales venue with a willow stick for a whip. fact. But, Im not suggesting for a moment that they are all the same, nor am I blaming all horse abuse on travellers. I am just commenting on the vid in question, which IS about a group of travellers.

 

[sjmcc]

some people say that not all travellers treat there horses bad . show me one iv had horses 30 years n theyr bad b......ds alright even there dogs get beaten . now on the other hand a gypsy i beg maybe to differ . but the ones we see are low life scum bag *****

n to back my quote up iv bought off them . iv bought off them at the roughest of markets n when that horse comes home with you it wont take you long to find out it had a good beating . what we are seeing are ***** ready to make a quick few pound . the livery yards were they get abused you can stand up n say what you like or report it try standing up to these youl likely take a beating aswel . i wouldnt trust them as far as i could spit them liares

 

[narkymare]

Im just wondering who here would happily sell or rehome a dog or horse of theirs to someone from the travelling community?

 

[sjmcc]

Im just wondering who here would happily sell or rehome a dog or horse of theirs to someone from the travelling community?

never i take it and have the animal put to sleep 1st . to lead a horrible life with them i dont think soooo and it would be passed on from one ***** to another

 

[Ignition]

Irish travellers are protected under the race relations act and are recognised as an ethnic group under British Law, so might I suggest several of you try and curb your racism in future posts?

 

[sjmcc]

Irish travellers are protected under the race relations act and are recognised as an ethnic group under British Law, so might I suggest several of you try and curb your racism in future posts?

what are you on about in all these post who mentioned IRISH you did these travellers are all not flameing irish you know . i was born in scotland and have a lot of family there and go back and the travellers there speak with a scottish accent . i think were more on the line of gypsy wanna be,s so get your fact right before you point out your facts

 

[Spudlet]

Irish travellers are protected under the race relations act and are recognised as an ethnic group under British Law, so might I suggest several of you try and curb your racism in future posts?

Well said.

Horse abuse is wrong and it happens everywhere - not just among Travellers. The type of housing someone lives in is incidental and does not indicate whether or not they will abuse their horses.

I have known Gypsies and Travellers that I would happily leave an animal of mine with. People are just people - you get good, bad and indifferent everywhere!

 

[Spudlet]

what are you on about in all these post who mentioned IRISH you did these travellers are all not flameing irish you know . i was born in scotland and have a lot of family there and go back and the travellers there speak with a scottish accent . i think were more on the line of gypsy wanna be,s so get your fact right before you point out your facts

Irish Travellers is the name used by the Race Relations Amendments Act 2005. It is also how members of the community in question self-identify, in my experience.

Please get your facts correct. They are easily checked.

 

[sjmcc]

Irish Travellers is the name used by the Race Relations Amendments Act 2005. It is also how members of the community in question self-identify, in my experience.

Please get your facts correct. They are easily checked.

very nice law to have on board . lets say iv more IRISH BLOOD in me in years gone by . than eney of them will ever have . iv yet to come across one id ever leave my horse with . and good luck to those who would . iv been to the camp sites theyr no more than middens

 

[RunToEarth]

This thread is even more stupid than the previous thred I have just read from OP.
Bad horsemanship is experienced from every corner of the sport, from the "travellers" to the height of BSJA.