treeless easytrek saddles

As a general rule, if a treeless saddle seems to cheap to be true, then don't believe it! They may have possible mis-spelled the middle of the word Italian, and actually meant to put Indian.... Easy mistake to make :D
 
PonyIAmNotFood said:
Ha oki doke, avoided! Seen a freemax that looks nice and is close by so I can check it out, any comments on those? Online reviews seem good.
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Apparently the Copperbeech are the best of the cheapy ones. Libra are OK too. All the others are not great. Don't just google "X saddle" - google "x saddle problems" ;) That's when you find the real reviews ;)
 
I tried a Copperbeach, and it seemed to attempt to "fold in half" whilst riding - after much searching, I adore my Barefoot Cheyenne. Libra are also a good make.
 
PonyIAmNotFood said:
Ha oki doke, avoided! Seen a freemax that looks nice and is close by so I can check it out, any comments on those? Online reviews seem good.
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Haven't tried a freemax but they are apparently related to the more expensive freeform, which I am trying at the moment. Saddle itself seems ok, but having real issues with pressure distribution. Have tried a few different treeless pads and the grease mark after is always everywhere I wasn't sitting! i.e. heavy pressure in the shape of my behind and thighs and absolutely none of the pressure distributed elsewhere. I do have a difficult mare but still, seems wrong to me.
 
Plenty of Indian leather is soft and supple that does not mean it is any good or of the quality the OP is looking for.

There are a lot of colourful saddles on eBay at the moment which are in the Freemax style and being sold as that name but which almost certainly are not Freemax.
 
I appreciate that comment, but you are missing the point that Easytrek saddles are not indian leather. I appreciate there are a lot of cheap indian made copies of Freemax on ebay, however I can't quite see what this has to do with your comments of the Easytrek saddle.
Easytrek are a UK trademarked company and the main parts of the saddle are manufactured in Hereford and Worcester. Easytrek is based in Monmouthshire Wales. Leather is sourced from italy. They are a good quality middle range saddle. They are not in the quality bracket of Heather Moffat at £2,000 a pop but they are also not in the same quality bracket as the cheap indian made copies on ebay.
 
My comments about fake Freemax saddles has nothing to do with my comments on Easytrek saddles which is why it is a separate paragraph. It was a comment to the OP.

I have no idea of anything about Easytrek saddles only that others on this thread seem to think they are not so good. My comment on the leather was in response to your comment about it being soft and supple. Plenty of leather is soft and supple, including some Indian leather. Soft and supple, as a selling point, says nothing about the quality of the leather. In fact I have found new good quality English leather to be stiff and need breaking in! I feel the term Italian leather is misleading too, generally Italian leather is top quality not just meaning sourced from Italy. That leather could be from anywhere. I am not saying Easytrek saddles are not a useful product in their own right for someone looking for what they are, but you obviously have something to do with selling them and I object to you posting on here or anywhere TBH for the purposes of misleading people.
 
It is by the same token also misleading of people to infer that a particular saddle is not a good saddle if they have not physically seen one or tried one. How possibly can someone comment or make judgement on something they have heard on the grapevine from another who has made a judgement on something they haven't even seen or tried. That is my point.
 
aston said:
It is by the same token also misleading of people to infer that a particular saddle is not a good saddle if they have not physically seen one or tried one. How possibly can someone comment or make judgement on something they have heard on the grapevine from another who has made a judgement on something they haven't even seen or tried. That is my point.
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It is a public discussion forum, people will put their opinions. I can have an opinion without having seen a product. Someone such as yourself posting to advertise their product (not allowed on this forum by the way) and mislead people with the wording used in their adverts can expect people to argue against them. If you do not want people to slate your product then make a better product or advertise the one you have accurately instead of trying to make it sound better than it is. If adverts did not mislead, people would have no need to post on internet forums asking for opinions but since nobody can trust anything advertised they do post and they will get opinions from those who have bought the product believing the hype and been disapppointed and also those who have seen or heard about the product, as well as any happy buyers. That is how forums work.
 
aston said:
Your comment is a little unfair, you clearly have not seen one of these saddles in the flesh! How about take a look first before you make judgment! These are beautifully made saddles with soft supple leather.


http://www.easytreksaddles.co.uk/ourshop/cat_332276-TREELESS-SADDLES.html
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that's a fair comment however you are not actually saying that you own and ride in one of these saddles just that they are well made and quite honestly you sound like a salesman in which case i would say to you that i would not buy one of your saddles as you only have a mobile number on your website which is unprofessional and does not inspire me with confidence in the product. i also resent you toting your product here
 
Firefly9410 said:
It is a public discussion forum, people will put their opinions. I can have an opinion without having seen a product. Someone such as yourself posting to advertise their product (not allowed on this forum by the way) and mislead people with the wording used in their adverts can expect people to argue against them. If you do not want people to slate your product then make a better product or advertise the one you have accurately instead of trying to make it sound better than it is. If adverts did not mislead, people would have no need to post on internet forums asking for opinions but since nobody can trust anything advertised they do post and they will get opinions from those who have bought the product believing the hype and been disapppointed and also those who have seen or heard about the product, as well as any happy buyers. That is how forums work.
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I am sure majority will agree what a worthless opinion it is when you haven't actually seen a product or used it. That kind of opinion counts for nothing!
 
Of course I own and ride in one of these saddles, and think they are great, hence why I commented on the post and wanted to try to educate people who leave comments of opinion on something they have never seen or used. Hitting head against brick wall springs to mind!
 
aston said:
Of course I own and ride in one of these saddles, and think they are great, hence why I commented on the post and wanted to try to educate people who leave comments of opinion on something they have never seen or used. Hitting head against brick wall springs to mind!
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Advertising your product and trying now to cover your back is what springs to my mind!
 
What springs to mind for me is opinionated person with no experience of a product. Too much opinion and no fact!
I am sure everyone will agree it is not about the price you pay for a saddle. What is paramount is whether it fits correctly. You can pay £2,000 for a heather moffat and it doesn't fit. You can shim it all you like and bulk it out with different pads to try to make it fit because you like the name and want to say you have one, but really whats the point in that! A saddle has to fit correctly and if you pay £350 for a middle range Easytrek saddle and it fits and is comfortable and well made why should you not state that. So that is what I am doing. And just because I have stated my opinion, in your opinion that means I sell Easytrek saddles! So does that mean all the other people on this forum with good things to say about Easytrek saddles all sell Easytrek saddles - how very silly!
You have a lot to say about Freemax saddles in your previous replies, does that mean you sell Freemax saddles?
Leave it here I think! Let others who have physically seen and tried the saddles to have an opinion.
 
No I do not sell anything. I used to own a Freemax and it was lovely, which I did not actually mention earlier. The OP of this thread was thinking of buying one and I warned her away from the fakes. Hardly promoting them, unlike your posts for Easytrek.

Everyone has opinions. I have no problem with Easytrek saddles, my problem is with the wording used in the adverts which is designed to deliberately mislead the potential buyer as to the quality of the product.

My second problem is you. One of my pet hates is people using forums for advertising. I reported you earlier, with any luck you will be banned soon.
 
Likewise I reported you earlier too. My pet hate is an opinion from someone who has no fact! What a worthless opinion to have on a site!
 
Well I am a but of a treeless nut! I
have tried
Easytrek
Trekker
Barefoot
Copper beech
Libra
Freeform
Ghost
Heather Moffett FlexEe ,Vogue and ,phoenix
Torsion
Lamfelle
Dartmoor Treefree
And Solution treeless saddles on Arabs, cobs and Dartmoor ponies all with varying degrees of success over the years. If anyone would like to know which I rate and which I don't feel free to pm me!
 
I joined to give my opinion on these saddles, but have been lurking for a long time!
I have the one that looks like a real saddle with 'sheepskin' underneath.
I couldn't sent it back as I left it too late. I didn't put it on a horse and wouldn't recommend anyone to. It is currently sat under my stairs, and I had wondered about pulling it apart to see what the inside is like, but not sure yet.
I don't know what the official definition of treeless is but im pretty sure this doesn't go near it.
it seams to flex quite easily in the middle (across the seat) and I would be worried it would dig into the horse as well as offer less support to the rider.
I have not been able to find out how you adjust the width of it as I can't get it to flex, and it doesn't fit to the horse like other treeless saddles I've seen.
the leather is very thin, and yes it is soft and supple but feels more like the stuff cheap shoes are made from than a hard wearing saddle.
Across the skirt the leather is 'wrinkled' like it isn't pulled taught into the right shape.
The fluff underneath feels like a dog blanket rather than sheepskin.
Also if you shake it somthing rattles and I don't think its the stirrup bars. I sat on it on the sofa and not sure I would last a lesson on it, I have sat on a worse sadde once at a riding school which was probably much older than me and it was falling apart and has holes in, but I don't think it's any worse than the uncomfortable ones you get at a riding school, but it's definitely worse than a lot of them.
All the girth straps are attatched to the same point.
overall poor quality might be better than the cheap ones off ebay if it flexed at all, but I can't get it to, and have never seen a cheap ebay one in person, ridiculously overpriced.
Company very quick to repond to me and had excellent customer service when I was looking to buy, but a few months ago I sent an email asking how you adjust the width and to tell them I was disappointed with the quality for the price (I didn't go into much detail as wanted to know if the saddles actually adjusted) and am still waiting for a reply as they seem to have ignored me. I haven't tried any of their other saddes.
Not a good saddle in my opinion, I have a robinsons treeless which is good quality even though I find the stirrups too far back and not very supportive as too roomy but probably a bit too big and I'm not used to it. Have rode in a barefoot and found that very similar in design to to the robinsons requisite one but better quality materials, but I don't think the robinsons one is poor quality.
Sorry for the very long post and hello hho!
 
Very informative Shetland Pony, though I'm not looking now, that will stay with me for future purchases. Thanks for the write up. I was looking for a Robinsons one second hand last year as I used to work there and remember them being quite good quality and good copies of the 'main brands'. Can't find them second hand though!
 
I hope Aston is not a salesperson for Easytrek as they have not made them look good at all. I had one second hand in a job lot but certainly wouldn't want to use it on my horse - far too floppy, pads on the underside were so soft they would be useless to provide any spine relief. Pommel and cantle inserts were also very unforgiving.
 
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