UKCC level three, any info??Has anyone done it. I am struggling...

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Had anyone done or know anything about UKCC level 3? I am really struggling to find any info/course/exam dates. Can anyone shed any light??

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It's discipline specific, and depending on which discipline you want to do it in, the rules vary! If it's BE, then Caroline Moore runs training for it http://www.equestriancoaching.com/ - nothing on the website at the moment but if you email her she's v helpful. BSJA usually have stuff on their website:
http://www.britishshowjumping.co.uk/training/UK-Coaching-Certificate- scroll down for L3 stuff. BD don't look like they are running L3 at the moment but you'd get more info if you contacted them directly I am sure. http://www.britishdressage.co.uk/training/UKCC

I know for BE they wanted people to have been training at least 2 people up to 2* level but struggled to find people willing to participate (presumably because most people at 2* have a regular trainer and are not inclined to change) so they also were accepting people training up to N/1* level. You have to do sessions in front of the assessment panel with riders you have never seen before - and they won't necessarily have been well-screened. (In that I know of someone who had an intermediate rider to train but the rider should not have been doing intermediate so the coach could not show off their skills). You also have to prepare a portfolio over the course of about a year - but it can be retrospective, so if you've trained loads of people up to the required level you can just sit down and do the portfolio straight away.

It doesn't bear much resemblance to UKCC L2 - I did several of the training sessions for L3 with some people who'd passed L2 and TBH they struggled. The people who didn't were the people who were already coaching several people at that level - so a 4* rider for example was fine.

I made the decision that there was no way I could get enough hours in at the required level to be confident enough to pass the assessment so did the L2 instead. My feeling was you need to be training different people regularly at Intermediate/Adv Medium/Foxhunter+ to really shine at this level.
 
thanks for this. I have my senior coaching certificate ( BHS) and to do that you teach to advanced medium on the flat, Foxhunter SJ and BE intermediate so I would be happy to teach at the level.
I am just struggling to find much info- loads at level 2 but not much at level 3.
 
The BHS havent yet released any UKCC dates for this year (something to do with the woman who does them has been off sick apparently...)

For BD you need to be competing at Advanced Medium Level, or have at least 2 pupils who are sucessfully competing at Adv Med. There was a big bit in the latest BD Mag about it actually.

I couldnt believe how expensive the L3 was with BD though, nearly £1000.........
 
I thought that as well Tempi re the cost. Well I haven't had a horse to compete at Ad/med until now but I have taught people to that level.
 
charlie76 said:
thanks for this. I have my senior coaching certificate ( BHS) and to do that you teach to advanced medium on the flat, Foxhunter SJ and BE intermediate so I would be happy to teach at the level.
I am just struggling to find much info- loads at level 2 but not much at level 3.
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You have to contact the disciplines individually - so you first need to decide which one you want to be L3 in. They don't publicise it at all - you need to find out who the coordinator is and then get on their mailing list. The only other way to do it, if you don't want to go discipline specific, is via the BHS where you have to sit the ITT http://www.bhs.org.uk/Training_and_Qualifications/UKCC/UKCC_Level_3.aspx

There is no way of finding this stuff out without going to each discipline individually - I think because BE at least are concentrating on getting their existing coaches UKCC L3 accredited for the time being, rather than encouraging new people into coaching.

You will need at least 2 people you actually train regularly at the level to do your portfolio though, rather than just the ability to coach at that level - I'm sure you'll find them easily though.
 
My plan was to go the BHS way first (( I have my ITT) and then go go to each discapline after that. The BHs route would be more beneficial for me at the moment in my job but would like to get them all under my belt. Because of my BHS qualification I can go straight to level 3.
 
The thing that'd it'd be really worth you doing is getting a copy of what each discipline wants in its portfolio for them - then whilst you're doing the BHS one (and saving for the BD one - how much??!), you can be preparing the portfolios, which will get you ahead of the game when it comes to going through the assessment. I've got the BE one somewhere (assuming it hasn't changed), so it is available electronically from Caroline Moore.

I would hazard a guess that the training in terms of coaching technique should be reasonably generic, so unless the discipline insists on it, you may be able to skip some/all of the training days and just do the assessment. You can also go and watch assessment days - I know BE allows it (and in fact encourages people who are doing/thinking of doing the UKCC to go and watch), so again it'd be worth getting in touch with the disciplines about doing that as it'd give you a good idea of what you need to be doing.
 
I have a few friends who have done UKCC3 through BHS and its by far the easiest one to get compared to the other 3 disciplines. In fact one of my friends Karen did her BHSI around the same time as you? I also have a feeling its a bit cheaper.

If you are used to the coaching format for lessons then you will fly through UKCC3.
 
SpottedCat said:
It's discipline specific
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Not necessarily - the BHS or rather EQL, their subsidiary company that handles qualifications, does the generic level 3. It’s cheaper than the discipline specific courses or via other awarding bodies such as HorseScotland because the technical knowledge has already been assessed in previous exams eg Int Teaching and Stage 4 which are a pre requisite for level 3 so the course is shorter. The focus is on coaching techniques, learning styles and sports psychology etc rather than teaching and lesson content as had previously been the case in PTT, IT etc.

charlie76 - I would have thought a call to the BHS Training Dept should let you know what’s happening with courses - Alison Le Fevre and Margaret Linnington-Payne would be worth an email if you don’t manage to get to get anywhere by phone, both were helpful when I did level 3.
 
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