Ulcers diagnosed this morning

[Louby]

After a few niggling doubts and umming and aghhhing about having my horse scoped, I decided I needed to know and she was done this morning. A lot was said and its all a bit of a blur so please excuse my lack of terminology but she has minor ones in the first part and a couple of grade 3 to 4 in the further region and we were on our way with Gastroguard and Sulfrate, to rescope in 4 to 6 weeks.
Im on a very small yard, they usually all get fed together in the morning but from tomorrow mine will have to wait now. Also vet said to remove hay last thing at night so her stomachs empty. Realistically this is going to be difficult so was thinking of reducing the amount she has as she always has bits left in the morning.
Just wondered how you all managed the regime of giving the Gastroguard on an empty stomach, any advice to feeding etc etc. She picks at chaff, Ive tried loads of different ones and is currently fed a high fibre, low starch, sugar diet as she is very sensitive to feeds, as in they send her off her head!
Thanks for any help or advice

 

[milliepops]

mine is 2 weeks into the same regime.
I get up super early so I give the gastogard with the lights all off, then everyone stays quiet. I start work in the car
then go back and give sucralfate in a tiny feed, then go off and do jobs or back to more work. i feed the surrounding horses too then.
come back later and give hay, or turnout. then go home.

I was told to let her hay run out early hours of the morning so i give more hay in the day than i normally would and a smaller net overnight.

will see in a month whether it's working it's a big faff but it works Ok now i'm in a routine.

 

[doodle]

Just starting this with mine. I don’t take his hay away at night. I go up a little earlier and give him his peptizole and leave him tied while I muck out so he dosnt eat. Give that 30mins and feed and turnout. So he is being turned out at normal time to try and reduce the tantrums about goung out! I have started today giving him lunch so he has something to eat as hay is treated as a toy rather than eaten. At night has another feed and as much hah as he likes. Some improvement but he isn’t fixed yet.

 

[Bellaboo18]

Ok, one of mine scoped clear last week ??
This is what we did...

Small haynet at night, aiming to give her enough to finish in the early hours of the morning. I wouldn't (personally) want her starved all night.

Gastrogard first thing, followed by an hour without food (we did light exercise in that time).

Then breakfast with the sucralfate as a top dressing.

Then turned out.

In the evening feed with sucralfate 30 mins before exercise.

She's fed fast fibre with succeed and since she's scoped clear I've added acid ease.

Good luck.

 

[HufflyPuffly]

With Doodle (she didn't get the sucralfate as it wasn't really a thing then) I brought her in from the field with no hay in her stable waited a bit and then gave the gastroguard.

With Skylla she did have both, I didn't remove her hay overnight but did make sure I waited before giving her the sucralfate.

Both scoped clear on their next scoping, though Skylla only had one grade one left at the first scoping as I'd already started her on the Abler stuff (not insured and didn't want to wait to treat before I could get her booked in to be scoped). I do remember it being a bit of a faff but worth it in the long run.

 

[SEL]

Mine was out at grass 24:7 when she had her ulcer treatment - and given food anxiety was part of the problem there was no point in making it worse by taking food away from her.

So she'd come in and immediately have her gastroguard (sucralfate wasn't a thing then). I'd get out of her eyeline to avoid the 'give me my breakfast' stress and then 30 mins later she'd get her tiny bucket feed.

I didn't actually scope again because I could tell by her behaviour that she was feeling much better. She has relapsed a couple of times after something has set her off. I did gastroguard off insurance once (ouch) and then the 2nd time I went down the Abler route. Recently I've used Ron Fields herbal stuff and have been very impressed.

Fortunately the drugs seem pretty palatable so giving the syringe wasn't as stressful as trying to get some drugs down them.

 

[milliepops]

yeah I've been pleasantly surprised by how easily it slips down in the morning. it can't taste bad at all really.

 

[Wizpop]

Hi Louby- am currently treating my mare for ulcers with Peptizole and Sucralfate- she has ulcers similar to yours.
As she’s turned out all day and there’s not much grass, I asked my vet if she could have the Peptizole after I bring her in at night. my reason being that there is so little grass, she will most probably have less in her stomach than first thing in the morning. I like her to have the option of hay all night because of the ulcers. Vet said it made sense to do it that way so I have! Don’t know if that helps.

 

[Louby]

Thanks everyone, the issue in the morning is another liveries horse will kick the stable until she gets fed, so her owner will want her feeding. Im going to feel so mean leaving my girl out but theres not much I can do to avoid it unfortunately. We have grass, not loads but I imagine her stomach wont be empty when she comes in from turnout.
I tried Acid Ease last month but she turned into a loony after a couple of days, same with Pink Mash (tried on 2 seperate occasions), so I stopped them and she was back to her normal within a few days. I know it sounds crazy but it was a noticeable difference that not only I noticed.
I looked at the Abler, I winced at £100 a week or am I looking at the wrong ones?? Was thinking at the time of trying it prior to scoping and Gastroguard via an insurance claim.