Umenno and Buenno.... who's got a youngster?!

[Mugsgame]

As title really! Am interested in knowing more about Umenno and, more importantly, his son Buenno. I am looking for a stallion with a nice amount of bone, good limb conformation and a strong hind quarter. I am interested in coloured, but its not the be all and end all! That said, I do want to exhaust my options of British coloureds before I move on to plain for this particular mare! I am also eager for quality, regardless of colour! I am very keen on good tempraments as well, and certainly might like to keep (a filly fingers crossed!!) out of this particular TB mare.

Cheers all!

 

[eventrider23]

How is the mare bred???? Have you got any confo pics??

 

[Mugsgame]

Now I feel bad

because I actually dont have any decent pics of her stood up that would be of any use to anyone!!

She is an American TB (Seattle Dancer x Arctic Tern). Lovely tempered mare, with a great length of rein and nice deep body, but this year I am looking to add a touch of bone and improve the quarters - thats the grand plan anyway

!!

 

[eventrider23]

I would personally go for Sambertino if you want to possibly add colour. He is certainly proven in himself and his progeny, many of whom are successfully eventing and dressaging. He would do exactly what you ask and add some bone to the TB as well as the powerful dressage quarters.

If colour is a must then there is also always Goshka Ringo, who himself has competed dressage and who has some very very decent progeny on the ground...plus he is homozygous and so definitely a coloured.

 

[seabiscuit]

Goshka really seems to stamp his stock really well indeed, I'm always v. impressed by his offspring and they are all without a doubt better/as good as the man himself which is a mark of a good stallion .Plus he has alredy sired a younger stallion that was champion(?) of his futurity grading for dressage and SJ ( I think) . Goshka would cross with a TB mare very nicely I am sure because he would add that substance and not loose out on the quality.
Love the Arctic Tern line

 

[eventrider23]

The champion you are thinking of is Amour G...stunning stallion....double Elite Prem graded at the futurity and graded WBS-UK

 

[Depp_by_Chocolate]

I don't have a youngster by them but I think Umenno and Buenno are both gorgeous stallions, I would use either of them.

 

[jomiln]

I have a Umenno youngster - 3 year old colt - he is not coloured but has a nice temperament -bit cheeky - amazing movement.
We are in process of breaking him in at moment with a view to grading him next spring.

This is him at 2 year old (before I got him)
We are hoping to aim him at dressage

 

[eventrider23]

Jomiln - he is a handsome boy!!

 

[volatis]

Ringo is in France now but you can still get semen over here. he crosses her well on a TB mare.
This is my 2009 colt out of a TB mare who has Glacial Storm on her dam's side. He is a serious mover!


I've bred 5 from Ringo and he adds bone, suspension and a stronger hindquarter.

This is a foal we bred out of a 3/4 TB mare, this was him this Spring (as a 4yo)

 

[jomiln]

Eventrider - thanks for your comments - I feel very lucky having him and Audacity - I hope will both be special boys.

 

[aviemowat]

I have a Umenno baby who is also a full sister to Buenno!!!
Her at 7.5 weeks
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2448105930105824750DPWItt

She is amazing, i just love her!!

 

[aviemowat]

Some pics of her at a day old!!

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2797165950105824750vtjsDv

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2299373230105824750LvjSEo

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2627933660105824750kVmqNM

 

[Mugsgame]

Some super stock here! The Umenno's certainly seem to have plenty of presence, I like that...

! I do also like the look of the Ringo's, Volatis - but the only one I have had dealings with was a bit(!) sharp, albeit a very good mover! Perhaps this came from the mare though? How do you find them? Do you know if it is all frozen semen in the UK?

Guess there aren't many Buenno's on the floor yet!

Aviemowat - she is lovely, would be very pleased with her! I am more drawn to Buenno as a horse than Umenno, cant really explain it, just a feeling! The combination of Umenno and Edwina obviously works v. nicely indeed!

Thanks so much for all the info guys, yet more things to mull over!!!

 

[classic_astra]

if im right in saying buennos first offspring are due early next year but dont quote me on that. i am really interested in using him next year on my mare...

 

[aviemowat]

hiya, The umenno and Edwina combination cross very nicely indeed, another foal due in the spring.
I have met them all in the flesh, i would have to say Buenno is my favourite, thats why i have his full sister. He is short coupled, good bone, very nice head! Full of presence and has a leg in each corner. The other excellent thing about him is that he is homozygous so he guarantees a coloured baby!! You should go see him, you wont be able to take your eye of him, big powerfull mover!
His sister is the same she is full of presence, leg in each corner as you can see from the pics! She is so quiet, quick to learn and nothing bothers her! Buenno does have foals due this spring, if you look on the breeders website www.umenno.com then you will see the dates of the mares at the stud. Plenty other mares due to buenno too.... but who wouldnt want to use him he is Gorgeous!!!

 

[aviemowat]

Pics below are of Darquinno another youngster out of Umenno and Quinnie my mum owns him he is only a yearling.
These were takin today
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2847221080105824750qHLJDJ
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2142485260105824750DHacMQ
He shows again umennos temprement, he is so easy to handle and laid back, perfect gentleman!

 

[aviemowat]

Pics of Darquinno as a foal at the fife show in the foal class which he won!

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2320079530105824750eGicnZ
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2345548270105824750tqAMjl

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2134330300105824750qNhzpZ

His full sister gained Ster as a three year old with 87.5% for jumping scope technique take off and attitude!!

 

[volatis]

My Ringos are all super trainable. The 4yo was backed by his young owner, and wa sher first horse, and as you can see , she is small!
My 3yo filly by him out of a Trakehner mare I am just backing at the moment, and she again is superb temperament wise. She always has been, very sensible, very calm but with enough oomph to be a serious sporthorse.
Ringo himself is a gent in every sense and the owners are lovely to deal with.

 

[nomis]

Umenno is graded, but Buenno is not, so I would tend to go for a graded stallion to give your foal more worth. Another thing worth noting - eventually progeny by ungraded stallions won’t be eligible to enter the Futurity. Umenno won’t guarantee you colour either, as he looks to have produced many solid coloured foals according to the owner’s website.

As a foal Buenno got 7 for conformation and just 6.6 for movement (so was awarded a 2nd Premium by the Scottish Sports Horse), to me that is very average scoring.

Personally I think there is such a wide selection of very nice solid coloured stallions available in the UK, why take the chance on a homozygous stallion who is not even graded that got average scores as a foal? I guess it depends on whether you see colour more important than quality.

If going for a homozygous stallion why not try Semper’s Spirit? Stock went for decent prices at the Brightwell’s sale this year, he is a graded stallion and will give you a coloured foal.

 

[markvannunen]

Ben Wentink from Scotland AI Service purchased a new, british bred, homozygous coloured stallion for the 2010 season.
He will be offered for grading in 2010 as he is only 2 yrs old now. He is 16hh now and will end up 16.2hh. He is free from Samber and Ico lines.

See for his pedigree here:http://www.sporthorse-data.com/db.php?i=10521045&time=1258118160

 

[ladyt25]

Glad this horse (Umenno) is being mentioned - I happened across him a while ago and thought he was just stunning with a lovely head on him.

Jomiln I think your lad is lovely and does resemble Umenno facially I think - I like a strong head on a horse!

 

[delphie468]

he's lovely Jo

Aviemowit how lucky you r to have Buenno's sister and Darquinno too!
Nomis can't believe Buenno only got 68 for movement

could watch his video all day, maybe the judges didn't have their specs on

anyway look at Ringo sire of Amour G he was awarded two elite premiums at the BEF futurity and graded with the BWS so if the BEF won't accept progeny from non graded stallions and no one should use non graded stallions then AG would never have been born

 

[jazmineduke]

This is poppit out of matik by Umenno she is a real sweetheart easy to do and handle.

 

[wonder]

What about Decopauge. He has stock competing well in Sweden and UK.

This is him

This is just one of his offpsring.

 

[competitiondiva]

I really like umenno's stock, buenno and jomlins boys being my favourites, buenno I believe got an injury when he was young, hence has not been graded??? Might be wrong there, but if the stud could see the quality in him and his temperament to keep him entire etc I think that speaks volumes. His foals that have landed all look to be of serious quality, it will be very interesting seeing how they do in the competition world. Decoupage I liked the look of but have been told that he's not done that much himself and his stock haven't fullfilled expectations really? Sempers spirit I like, and goshka ringo, the latter would cross well with a tb, he's got too much substance to use to my mare IMO.

 

[crellow4]

I've a Belgian Warmblood mare in foal to Umeno - due mid April. I'm really looking forward to meeting my own Umeno baby, I've got everything crossed for a coloured baby as this one will be 'a keeper'. I understand that Umeno has been exported to South Africa, he is still available using frozen semen.
Goshka Ringo is a beautiful looking stallion however, as far as I'm aware, he has not been graded.

 

[scotia2k7]

...perhaps consider Barcutan Zulu Chief, one of a very few British bred & passported homozygous coloured sport horse stallions in the world. Being completely free from the famous Samber bloodlines makes him even more interesting to use, especially if you're after a filly & wanted to breed her one day too? He;s standing in Scotland at an AI yard (which is helpful!) LOL

scotia

 

[scotia2k7]

...sorry should have added Zulu's sire is Honeybrook Zulu who stood at Kirov National stud in Russia