Unbelieveable woman appeals ban

You hear about this all the time - do you remember a few years back when a horse starved to death on a yard? I have been told that rescue groups can do nothing to help an animal until it is at death's door but surely it doesn't have to hours away from death?! I would genuinly be interested in someone explaining this to me, because despite the dire warnings often given on here as to what will happen to YO's etc if a livery is allowed to neglect an animal, in practice the law rarely seems to be able to prevent such situations.
 
There is no way I could have been a client on that yard and not done something about it. I have seen horses being neglected on yards ( not as bad as that), but I have damned well given that person a telling off about it. I can't believe that other owner's just watched this poor pony being neglected and did nothing and neither did the yard owner as already pointed out by Janet George. It beggars belief. As does the person who has now been banned twice.
I own a horse that was given to me and she turned out to be in a state the minute I saw her in the flesh. Within minutes I suspected she had lice. I went out and bought the lice powder and vet was booked next day and she was given a louse treatment by them and wormed. It wasn't expensive at all. If people can't afford to pay for the day to day basic needs of a horse then they should not be in a position to be responsible for them. If this pony had been wormed and de-loused much sooner it would not be in the state that it is.
Doesn't surprise me though seeing this happen to a horse owned by an unknown as even a well known stud can allow a horse riddled with lice to be in their care and do nothing about it! Even when said horse had welts on its body!
 
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Although I know that personally I could not have been on that yard and done nothing, I think they may have been in a difficult position where if they had stepped in and done something then the pony would no longer have been being neglected and no action would have been taken. I know this isn't right but i've been advised this before, it's just such a shame that currently a horse has to be on deaths door before anything can be done.
 
JanetGeorge said:
One thing that struck me - though - is that this pony was on a livery yard! Why the HELL didn't the LYO or LYM do something MUCH earlier!
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My thoughts exactly Janet. It is one of the reasons BEVA have campaigned for licensing of livery yards. Apparently too many welfare cases come from DIY livery yards.

I have been there myself when I complained to a farming neighbour of mine (in Scotland) about the treatment of one of his liveries 'Not my job to tell someone how to look after their horse'. Happy to take the money of course.
 
In my opinion livery yards should be licensed and inspected regularly by organisations responsible for horse welfare. I also concur that more inspections should be done at any establishment that is responsible for caring for, housing or grazing equines. Too many equines slip through the net. Were it not for the eyes and ears of Joe Public then there would be many more slipping through the net. It is an utter disgrace and I will never agree with the notion that Britain is a nation of animal lovers.
 
the poor pony, i hope she ends up getting banned for life and is monitored.

i'm too shocked that no one helped the pony on the yard BUT on the other hand how many times have the rescue organisations said that because someone is feeding it it's not a priority case and all that.

maybe the liveries/YO contacted the rspca/whw/bhs about it and stood together to not feed the poor pony so that the owner WOULD be prosecuted. i know i couldn't do that but maybe they tried everything else and this was the last resort for them.

i'm just glad the pony is now in safe hands and hope the other one is taken off her soon.
 
I think some of you are overlooking the fact that the woman could be the yard owner!

I'm old enough to remember times when animal mistreatment was the norm rather than a minimal talking point and I entered the horseyworld from that end often attending a market at which virtually every horse entered was sold for meat. Some of the treatment meted out had to be seen to be believed - and everyone thought of it as perfectly acceptable. This kind of person still exists - to wit Mr Grey of Amersham.

There are also others who are genuine mental cases that like to have a horse around them but haven't a clue or the wherewithal to look after it.
 
1stclassalan said:
I think some of you are overlooking the fact that the woman could be the yard owner!

I'm old enough to remember times when animal mistreatment was the norm rather than a minimal talking point and I entered the horseyworld from that end often attending a market at which virtually every horse entered was sold for meat. Some of the treatment meted out had to be seen to be believed - and everyone thought of it as perfectly acceptable. This kind of person still exists - to wit Mr Grey of Amersham.

There are also others who are genuine mental cases that like to have a horse around them but haven't a clue or the wherewithal to look after it.
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I do so wish that the press would stop refering to Spindles Farm being in Amerham - It's in Hyde Heath! Amersham is my home town - I lived there for 36yrs! and feel embarresed that my town is constantly being refered to as the home of that monster. Spindles Farm is in Hyde Heath a village a few miles away from Amersham.

Anyone who mistreats an animal to the extent that he did should be jailed for at least 20yrs and banned for life from owning any animal. Preperably lose the key.

A few years ago hear in New Zealand two horses were found in appaling condition, The SPCA were rung who advised that SPCA were keeping an eye on the horses. But enough was enough, they were desperately thin and one had a massive fistular on her wither where a too small cover had rubbed. There was uproar because the horses had been removed but we all baded together and wrote to the SPCA about the condition of the horses and their pathetic attempt to monitor their welfare. They were finally sent to a Trust that looks after troubled children ans has a special farm where these children go for councelling and healing. I paid for a load of feed to be delivered to the Trust for the horses, others donated money, covers and other equipment for the trust to use. It took many months for the wound to heal and for both horses to regain their weight. One of the comments made by the trust manager was how many of the children from abusive homes really related to these two horses and through caring for them started on their long road to healing.
 
Evelyn said:
I do so wish that the press would stop refering to Spindles Farm being in Amerham - It's in Hyde Heath! Amersham is my home town - I lived there for 36yrs! and feel embarresed that my town is constantly being refered to as the home of that monster. Spindles Farm is in Hyde Heath a village a few miles away from Amersham.

Anyone who mistreats an animal to the extent that he did should be jailed for at least 20yrs and banned for life from owning any animal. Preperably lose the key.

A few years ago hear in New Zealand two horses were found in appaling condition, The SPCA were rung who advised that SPCA were keeping an eye on the horses. But enough was enough, they were desperately thin and one had a massive fistular on her wither where a too small cover had rubbed. There was uproar because the horses had been removed but we all baded together and wrote to the SPCA about the condition of the horses and their pathetic attempt to monitor their welfare. They were finally sent to a Trust that looks after troubled children ans has a special farm where these children go for councelling and healing. I paid for a load of feed to be delivered to the Trust for the horses, others donated money, covers and other equipment for the trust to use. It took many months for the wound to heal and for both horses to regain their weight. One of the comments made by the trust manager was how many of the children from abusive homes really related to these two horses and through caring for them started on their long road to healing.
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Hyde Heath is a damn sight nearer Amersham than New Zealand but I appreciate your pernickety concerns - who cares where the ghastly deeds were done - it's the fact that they were that should concern us!

Back in 1511 about thirty people who were god fearing as any at the time were put in a big wicker basket and burnt to death - quite slowly by all accounts, just on the grounds of them wanting to do their worshipping that little bit differently to everyone else. How's that for Amersham then? There's a martyr's memorial garden up on the hill - it was full of litter when I went.
 
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