Utopia to be sold at Auction with no reserve..

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I saw on his facebook page that he was very upset about it, and is trying to find a solution where he can keep Uthopia.
He has asked people not to give to a fund to buy him.
I really hope he is able to keep him, and give him the retirement he deserves.
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I don't understand all the hoo ha tbh, or the willingness of people to contribute to gofundme pages arranged by random people who could easily just do a flit with the money! And that is before we get started on the lottery funding suggestion.
I am sure if Carl wishes to buy him he is perfectly capable arranging funding himself.
 

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I think much of the concern is not just that the horse is up for sale, but that he is to be sold 'at auction', which makes people think that he will just be sold to the highest bidder without any consideration for whether the home is right for him. I suppose they have visions of him going through the ring at one of the dead end sale rings!

But I do agree the gofundme bit beggars belief!
 

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I think much of the concern is not just that the horse is up for sale, but that he is to be sold 'at auction', which makes people think that he will just be sold to the highest bidder without any consideration for whether the home is right for him. I suppose they have visions of him going through the ring at one of the dead end sale rings!

But I do agree the gofundme bit beggars belief!
But isn't that exactly what is going to happen? He's not going to be sold at a horse auction - he is going to be sold along with the sports cars and trinkets, to the highest bidder..
 

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But isn't that exactly what is going to happen? He's not going to be sold at a horse auction - he is going to be sold along with the sports cars and trinkets, to the highest bidder..
I have no idea what form the auction will take and whether there will be any safeguards for the horse's welfare put in place. Like most people on here I have only read the brief statement that has been published. The point of my post was to highlight exactly why people felt emotive about the issue.
 

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I think that it is very sweet that people offered funding to help Carl, I know he has said not to now anyway but it was very kind of people to offer their help and support so willingly.
 

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I don't understand all the hoo ha tbh, or the willingness of people to contribute to gofundme pages arranged by random people who could easily just do a flit with the money! And that is before we get started on the lottery funding suggestion.
I am sure if Carl wishes to buy him he is perfectly capable arranging funding himself.
 

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I think that it is very sweet that people offered funding to help Carl, I know he has said not to now anyway but it was very kind of people to offer their help and support so willingly.
But when that support is monetary and going into gofundmes owned by random and potentially unscrupulous people?
 

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I have no idea what form the auction will take and whether there will be any safeguards for the horse's welfare put in place. Like most people on here I have only read the brief statement that has been published. The point of my post was to highlight exactly why people felt emotive about the issue.
Horse auctions take place all over the place most weeks. The only difference is that this one involves a well known horse.
 

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But when that support is monetary and going into gofundmes owned by random and potentially unscrupulous people?
Whether it was right to offer money is a different point, I was just saying it was a very kind gesture of people to try and help.
 

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I have actually just seen it announced that he is to be sold at the auctioneers just up the road from me. I noticed the name of the auction house on a news item, but thought it must just have been one of the same name, but it is indeed the local one. It will be one of their prestige auctions, along with high-value jewellery, cars etc.

http://www.wilsonsauctions.com/specialist-search-results/1266
 

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I wonder will he be ridden around Mallusk lol. Might go up for a nosy. At the end of the day the horse will be mega bucks and will end up with a good home. The people I feel sorry for is the creditors who have been waiting a long time for this.
 

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I wonder will he be ridden around Mallusk lol. Might go up for a nosy. At the end of the day the horse will be mega bucks and will end up with a good home. The people I feel sorry for is the creditors who have been waiting a long time for this.
I will be very surprised if he is actually present at the sale as I dont think the auctioneers will feel it nescessary. I suspect CH may already been given the option to buy him with a bit more cooperation. There is more to this story than a lot are aware of I am sure. Im sure it will come out one day.
 

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the moral of the story is if your bankrupt don't attempt to hide your assets as it will it bite you in the arse!

Ps I was being sarky when I said about him being ridden around Mallusk
 

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the moral of the story is if your bankrupt don't attempt to hide your assets as it will it bite you in the arse!

Ps I was being sarky when I said about him being ridden around Mallusk
Yes and dont become part of it either.
 

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No Uti will be at Carl's yard, he won't be appearing live at the auction!

AA and the article did use some very good points.. fascinating to think of it like that!
 

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Although I take Alice's points on the economics of it, the sort of people who will want to buy him don't have to worry too much about that. It's nice of H&H to do its bit trying to put buyers off, but a market is a market. If I were a Russian oligarch or Chinese billionaire wanting to propel my daughter on to the world dressage stage I wouldn't be too concerned about the cost.

Nor am I convinced about the 'health issues'. I think these are likely to be chronic conditions that need managing rather than him being broken down. Uti won an international class at Olympia a mere five months ago and was all set to go to the World Cup in the spring until the ownership dispute put a stop to it. It seems fairly clear that he was being got ready to be Charlotte's reserve horse for Rio, which hardly makes him washed up. No, he won't make the next Olympics, but he's got a good couple of years left in him, I would have thought.

It will be nail biting, though. I really hope Carl can keep him.
 

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The health issues are being well over played ,what misinformation would you put about if you were trying to buy him cheap! Its not like he is being sold by an owner Carl needs to support. I feel sorry for the creditors im afraid as everybody is trying to talk his value down and they lose out. Why do you think their in this mess to start with ,he could have been sold ages ago when worth more apart from the challenges thrown in to try to deceive the authorities.
 

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Well whatever the outcome, I just hope it is what is best for the horse. If Carl cannot keep Uti, I hope that whoever gets him will continue to provide him with the standard of care and horsemanship this horse is used to.
 
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