Very confussed

[kimrichards]

Hi ya

Basically i had the vet out to my mare yesterday because she is lame.

Turns out she is lame in 3 legs and very sore all over, the vet thought maybe it could be Wobblers, after she done some flextion tests and blind folded her though she wasn't that sure that it was aas she coped quite well withthe test's.

So basically she has told me that 2 weeks box rest with the first week on bute then see after 2 weeks if we can get her to being just lame on 1 leg.

She didn't really give me an answer to what she thinks it could be, she did however say it could be a long term thing.

Well i only got her about 7-8 weeks ago and for about 4-5 of those weeks she was sound to my knowledge.

Very non descriptive i no guys but this is really all i have to go on, any ideas or suggestions??

Well done if you made it to the end!!!!

 

[AmyMay]

What a puzzle. Was she vetted prior to purchase? And how old is she?

 

[_OC_]

Em......I think on this one you must go with your vet,because it could be multitude of things,what I don't quite understand apart from" wobblers" no other idea was bounced,for example is it back or neck related........well, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you,keep us posted as I for one would be interested in the outcome,Good Luck!

 

[kimrichards]

No i didn't get her vetted, i no thats my own fault i totally except that.

No she didn't really give any other ideas which i was hoping she might, i think she wants to give her 2 weeks box rest and hopefully then we can get it down to one leg to then start looking for the problem.

Im totally stumped, shes very happy in herself(well was shes bit annoyed that shes not out with her boyfriend now though!!)

 

[Kelly1982]

My first thought was back as well.

It could also be muscular, they thought my last horse had wobblers and this is what it turned out to be. We changed his diet to a non sugar/high oil diet (like EPSM) and he was loads better.

Someone noticed it at a show and said he looked 'crippled'. Truth was he just came out the lorry stiff and it took him longer than most horses to warm up.

Vet put my horse on bute for a week too and it did nothing!!

Really hope she is ok, keep us posted!!

 

[kimrichards]

Thanks the vet thinks shes about 10, bought her as8 but i mean thats not bothering me.

I was thinking along the back lines, i asked her if it was worth having a physio out she said not at the moemnt but if we can get her down to one leg then yes it would benifit the rest of her body having that done.

I'm really gutted i bought this mare because i wanted to start getting out competing and yeah i had trouble bonding with her when i first had her, but i love her to pieces and im not giving up on her!!!

 

[Kelly1982]

I'm sure she will be fine hun

Is she really lame or does she just not look right if you know what i mean?

Also what diet have you got her on?? And what diet was she on before?? Probably wont make a difference but i dont feed my horses anything sugary now so i would cut out sugar just in case.

 

[kimrichards]

Well im quite rubbish at spotting back end lameness but to me she just looked like she had s hort stride but the vet spotted it in 3 legs and said shes very sore.

I feed her on molly chaff and economy mix, cod liver oil pink powder and carrots!!

She was on nuts and chaff, maybe i should knock the mix on the head adn go back to nuts?

 

[BBs]

Might be worth getting a good physio out to her. If shes sore all over it wont hurt.
Arghh what a pain, and you were starting to bond well too.
If shes on box rest i would cut her food, or buy her a bag of balancer (I use ultimate balancer) as it can be used as a comp feed or a convalescence - you feed 100g to 100kg, so if shes 500kg give her 500g split into two or 3 feeds with chaff - that way you know shes not missing out on all the vit minerals - plus it has MSM in it which is an anti inflam plus has all the oil she requires too

about £30 a bag which should last you 5 wks.

 

[kimrichards]

Thanks BB'S i no im really getting on with her now and her quirky chesnut mare ways!!!


Im staying opptimistic becasue the vets not sure what the problem is yet and shes such a happy nosey mare that she hasn't lost that so i'm keeping everything crossed.

I might get my friends physio that is at her yard to come up and have a look at her.

 

[Llwyncwn]

Im so sorry to hear this, what a worry for you. Can you tell me how old she is and what her breeding is, also tell me exactly what the vet did in her tests. Has her gait been high stepping?

I had something very similar happen to me and thank God it wasnt wobblers - it was concussion, and took her a week to get over it in hospital.

I did alot of research at the time on Wobblers Syndrome which is why Im asking the above.

 

[kimrichards]

Hi

Shes about 10 the vet thinks, shes IDxTB

The vet done flextion text where she held her legs up for a minute or so dropped it and i had to trot her straight away back and front legs.

Then we blind folded her aswell, which she was fine with and she done the thing where she pulls her tail either side of her when walking, seemed to cope with all of them.

 

[Llwyncwn]

Well hun, from what you tell me it doesnt sound like Wobblers at all which would have been dreadful for you. There are alot of people on here who dont have good things to say for flexion tests, but the vets have to do their jobs. Is there any heat or swelling from any of the legs and did the vet check the digital pulse? Would you say that she could be a candidate for laminitis? Is there anyway you can trace her history from her passport as it would be beneficial to speak to a previous owner.

After her box rest Im assuming that the vet will want to take x-rays.

Please do keep us posted and let us know how she gets on.

 

[kimrichards]

Well the could find no swelling or abnormality in any legs.

I think she is hoping that after 2 weeks rest that we can pin point the lameness to one leg.

I don't no if she check digi pulse.

I have no idea of tracking her past at all unfortunatly. I woudldn't say she's a candidate for lami, i only had farrier few weeks ago pluse she checked hooves and seemed happy with that.

 

[MrsMagoo]

Well you know my thoughts on this hun - I thought its a load of 'bull' what the vets have said, how they can think its wobblers by bloody blind folding it and walking i do not know, ive never seen that done in my life, not even on Ari and she had all those tests. When its comes to physical I have to say I think most vets are crap at diognising things...

For everyone else - Kim-R brought the mare from my YO who had a few in to sell. I can honestly say she was as sound as a pound at ours, was lunged, jumped, hacked etc and even stayed in the whole time with no problems. If there was a problem at the time then we would have never of sold it!!! The mare was just on nuts, as are most of ares and can assure there was drugging involved lol....

Kim - Have you spoken to Hils/Glamour-Dol etc about theres, im still thinking its very similar, or if not get a physio to look at her???

 

[kimrichards]

Hi ya Bec

I read there post and don't think it sounds the same, Til's doesn't seem crippled or anything just abit sore. Infact i thought she was just short of a stride not lame on all three, i think wobblers may be ruled out i asked if it was worth getting a physio out and she said not at the moment but if we can pin point to one leg then the rest of her body would benifit from it.

Honest bec you no im not blaming you or YO i was there just after she arrived!!!!

 

[MrsMagoo]

I had all this with Ari bout trying to pin point one leg with bute etc and that got us no where...was chatting to YO tonight about it and all very confused. We had a theory...i know you said you had turned her out in that crappy field and thats when she came in looking lame - well what if she's run around and just pulled all different muscles, as she wasnt fit or anything was she....

I'd be inclined to go against the vet on this one and get an oesteopath out, could save you alot of money in the long run - vets just seem to like raking up nice hefty bills lol

 

[kimrichards]

Lady M i was thinking along the same lines as you, do you think F would come out even to just have a look??

 

[MrsMagoo]

yeh you can give her a call, shes not that expensive really...ill send you her number in a bit

 

[kimrichards]

cheers me dear, does she no about whats goingon at all?

 

[MrsMagoo]

havnt really spoken to her and think she is going away for the weekend today, so you'd prob have to wait till next week. If you try and call today and make appointment you should be able to reach her...

 

[kimrichards]

thank you yeah thats fine she's on bute this week so i spose would prob be best to do it once she has finished the course!!!!

cheers big ears!!!