doodle
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Robin has gone downhill again. Im heart broken for him. It’s all my fault for feeling positive about him.
Vet coming tomorrow
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SEL
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I am sorry - its not your fault for being positive though. I sometimes think being a pessimist makes live easier, but if you spend your life living in doom and gloom that's not a great place to be either. I'll keep everything crossed its not as bad as you fear, but with 3 broken horses I really do know how exhausting it is. **hugs**
Errin Paddywack
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So very sorry to hear this K. Fingers crossed it is 'just' a blip.
oldie48
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I am so disappointed for you, fingers crossed it's nothing serious. x
throwawayaccount
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i've followed your journey with robin from afar, and from every post its clear to see how much he means to you and how you constantly go above/beyond - he is lucky to have an owner like you who does everything for him.
fingers crossed for him and for you, don't be too hard on yourself
xx
fingers crossed for him and for you, don't be too hard on yourself
xx
Squeak
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Sending you positive vibes for tomorrow. Hopefully it's just one of those nothing things that they like to dream up to panic us.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
OH NO.. things were looking so good, fingers crossed its just a little blip
Baywonder
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doodle
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Thanks all. Yes it was going so well. I had let myself have a glimmer I may get to ride him again. Also annoyed at myself as they rang to say the vet could be there is 30mins but I had a nurse appt I couldn’t miss so had to post pone till tomorrow. I have spoken to insurance and still got £2k each for ulcers and lungs so that’s something. I still do query neck/poll though as he is back to being head shy which we couldn’t quite put down to just ulcers.
Flowerofthefen
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O bless you. I really feel for you. He is such a gorgeous boy and you as an owner couldn't do any more for him if you tried. Here's hoping it's just a minor glitch. Don't beat yourself up about not being Available today, you also have to look after yourself. Sending big hugs x
Caol Ila
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Poor Robin. Fingers crossed for the vet tomorrow. It sucks when they go downhill again after you thought they were doing so well.
Trouper
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I'm so sorry you are facing this again. Sending positive vibes for a good vet visit tomorrow.
doodle
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I have no clue what is going on, well I maybe do. Perfectly fine and happy tonight. I *think* the issue might be the conditioning fiber chaff. It would work in time wise as to when he went back on it. And having not had for 24hrs now. When he got ill, he dropped weight and I was feeding more and more of it and he was getting worse and worse. I will not cancel the vet just yet but perhaps it is as easy as the conditioning fiber no longer suits him and he didn’t have the soothe and gain to protect the tummy. That I can deal with!
Fruitcake
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Is it chaff (as in chopped up)? If so, you may well be onto something as there have been studies done which show that chaff can cause irritation for ulcer-prone horses. It’s thought that the harsh, cut edges mechanically irritate the gut wall.
vmac66
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Poor you and poor Robin, sorry you are both facing this again. Fingers crossed its nothing too serious.
TheOldTrout
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Good luck with the vet tomorrow.
misst
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Oh no.... but maybe it is the chaff - they are so sensitive sometimes. Fingers firmly crossed that the vet will not be needed. It definitely not your fault - you could not have done more.
Carrottom
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That's really interesting, can you point me in the direction of further reading on this please.
OP I hope you have sussed the problem.
FinnishLapphund
There's no cow on the ice
I took my socks off just so I could cross both fingers and toes when I say that I really hope it is "only" the conditioning fiber chaff, possibly in combination with not having had the soothe and gain to protect the tummy, that is the problem this time.
Fruitcake
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David Marlin published some info on this a few years ago. I now don’t feed any chaff and have switched to soaked alfalfa pellets as my horses don’t get much of a feed anyway and I thought it couldn’t hurt to try it. Apparently, hay is OK as the cutting is more of a ripping and it doesn’t leave as sharp of an edge.
doodle
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Yes it’s chaff. He has been on it for a good 2 years now so it does tie in when I think about it. I put him back in it as I thought if I was in hospital it is easier for yo to feed than having to faff with soaking. He loves it but I’m really hoping it is just that. And as said perhaps the (very small amount of) soothe and gain was having more of a protective job that I thought.
Dasher66
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Some straw used in feeds may have been sprayed with weed killer. The residue can apparently affect horses.
doodle
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Interesting, there is straw in the ingredients.
FinnishLapphund
There's no cow on the ice
Dasher66
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Weed killer is spayed onto lots of crops to stop the plants taking up water prior to harvesting so the grain is drier.
Lucky Snowball
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So sorry to hear your update. Everything crossed for you both. Hope it goes ok and can be sorted.
doodle
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It’s been the feed. The more I think about the timing the more I am sure. He is now back to normal having not had it for 2 days. It is also perhaps the lack of soothe and gain so he can have a very small amount of that going forward.
Is this likely to have caused the ulcers to come back? I am thinking not as he seems fine again so hopefully *just* his tummy feeling sensitive rather than damaged and not been on it for long enough.
I feel bad that as he was getting poorly I was giving him more and more of a feed causing an issue.
Is this likely to have caused the ulcers to come back? I am thinking not as he seems fine again so hopefully *just* his tummy feeling sensitive rather than damaged and not been on it for long enough.
I feel bad that as he was getting poorly I was giving him more and more of a feed causing an issue.
Pearlsacarolsinger
Up in the clouds
When I had the first horse with food intolerances/allergies, she absolutely loved the foods that she could not have. In fact you could have said that she was addicted to them.
Errin Paddywack
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Many, many years ago I read a book about someone breeding donkeys. They started losing foals and it turned out to be the grass they had reseeded the land with. No idea what it was but it was sharp and perforating the foals intestines.
Really hope it is the chaff causing his problems, easy fix if it is.
Really hope it is the chaff causing his problems, easy fix if it is.
doodle
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Yep he loves it!
I have emailed the vet to say I think I have solved the issue. And do we treat his stomach with peptizole, their gastro supplement or to wait and see how he progresses.
I have emailed the vet to say I think I have solved the issue. And do we treat his stomach with peptizole, their gastro supplement or to wait and see how he progresses.