Vet says which breeds to avoid

I'd have more respect and interest in the article if their picture of an "English Bulldog" wasn't clearly a Mastiff.....typical Daily Fail...
 
What we all knew anyway, I would have preferred the emphasis to be on research and picking a breed that suits you not one that you like the look of but still its the Daily Mail so if it has any affect on their readers that can only be a good thing.
 
Lévrier;13440063 said:
I'd have more respect and interest in the article if their picture of an "English Bulldog" wasn't clearly a Mastiff.....typical Daily Fail...
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When I first saw it I thought that was the most agile Bulldog I had ever seen.
 
Snuffles said:
Mongrels (sorry crossbreeds) are the answer !
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Mongrels have just as many issues as pure bred breeds - they simply (potentially) store up the issues from both pure bred parents and produce them in duplicate when they have offspring! There is absolutely no such thing as a genetically 'good' dog - you have to choose the right parents and buy from a responsible breeder.

Sorry to be zealous about this but my mum breeds/shows/judges one of the most maligned breeds in the country and NONE of her dogs show the characteristics attributed to the breed, it makes me so cross....

I'll shut up ranting now :o
 
Snuffles said:
Mongrels (sorry crossbreeds) are the answer !
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I had one this year. she was adorable, hilarious and very smart. she also had skin allergies and epilepsy-the latter of which killed her at 5yo. sometimes life is just ***** x


eta if the average family could go back to the average family mongrel we had back in the 70s/80s-ie a bit of lab/terrier/plus others that everyone seemed to have and came in yellow lab colour or black and tan-not sure that would be such a bad thing?!
 
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i thought that mastiff looked fab even though its not a breed i would own myself as i prefer lurcher/whippet/greyhound types...if you look on sites like preloved there are loads of handbag dogs for sale at crazy prices and apparently there are now quite alot of these types of dogs in rescues.....
 
Apart from the usual Daily Fail blunders, I think the vet has it spot on, especially when talking about the "average family" looking for a pet dog.
 
Lol ive already shared that post on facebook!

Cant really argue with the ideas in it at all tbh...theres a valid health concern reason for ever single choice there!

I'd add a few(lot) more specific breeds to clarify the no chosing a breed with diseases named after them rule..cough.. shar pei..cough.

Strongly having to advise insurance to people in a first puppy consult because you can predict a multitude of issues based on the bad genetic choices and physical malformations humans have inflicted on animals in the name of aesthetics is not the real solution for improving welfare...
 
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Really? I don't agree with their expert vet who recommended CKC spaniel as an ideal pet - for the average family not clued up on health testing?
 
CrazyMare said:
Saw this on Facebook. I think the answer is the greyhound!! Biased much!?
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The writer of the piece quoted suggested that dogs which are purpose-bred will need something to occupy their minds and to give them purpose and they were right. 'NOT ALWAYS', I accept, but generally greyhounds which are kept as pets never have their freedom to stretch their legs and gallop, and how more don't end up as raving maniacs, is a mystery. They are generally quiet, well mannered and impeccably clean, but those which never have their freedom must wonder if the day will ever arrive when they can do what they were bred for. They do make near perfect house-dogs, I agree, but whether those that live a permanently contained life are happy would be for the owner to decide, and to justify.

I suppose that those dogs which get a 20 minute lead walk every day and never have any freedom could be compared with the person who keeps a horse in its stable and takes it for a daily walk up the road and then puts it back in it's box, never allowing it to be turned out. We are quick to judge one its seems, but not the other! :)

I do know of one greyhound bitch and she came off the track because she simply wouldn't chase the lure. Nothing would persuade her to do so either! She's never on a lead, she doesn't bother with ground game when she's on farm land, and the cats local to her are ignored. She really is the exception though!

When the question of ideal breeds has been raised on here previously, I've suggested that those breeds which are bred predominately for work, and when denied that work or an alternative, can become a nightmare. It seems that 'anonymous' agrees with me, which is unusual for a vet. Of all the vets who I've dealt with over all the years, very few have understood what goes on in the mind of a dog. The bulk of them, certainly today, see our canine companions as a 'living' and we should bear that in mind.

As the writer also said, and correctly, if we remove all those breeds which were bred to do a job, what do we have left? Most breeds were created to serve man, so the list of breeds which were no more than ornaments, will be short.

Some work bred dogs will show no inclination to follow their prescribed paths, but those which do need an alternative if they can't express themselves in their intended manner and the alternative can be just about anything.

Alec.
 
To be fair as breeds go...
Caveliers can be incredibly health and live long productive lives....if they are coming from repsonsible breeders who arent going for the extreme brachy features and are health testing for cardiac issues etc....

Temperment wise they are some of the most consistently tolerant dogs I meet in practice....and cope incredibly well in an average home...much better then your standard lab or poodle mix...

I havent read the daily fail article though...just checked was it the same comment being quoted!
 
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Aru said:
To be fair as breeds go...
Caveliers can be incredibly health and live long productive lives....if they are coming from repsonsible breeders who arent going for the extreme brachy features and are health testing for cardiac issues etc....

Temperment wise they are some of the most consistently tolerant dogs I meet in practice....and cope incredibly well in an average home...much better then your standard lab or poodle mix...

I havent read the daily fail article though...just checked was it the same comment being quoted!
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Exactly, that stupid Jemima Harrison programme has a lot to answer for, scaring people away from well bred health tested dogs and into the arms of the puppy farmers with their designer crosses.
 
i have 2 friends who have retired greyhounds and while they were kept on leads to start with they both have a decent length walk and are let off lead every day and enjoy a good gallop. one of them isnt interested in hunting anything, the other will chase muntjac, squirrels etc but comes back very quickly..... both of them are fine with dogs as small as jack russells but both owners would be very careful if they saw a miniature /t cup type of dog,just in case...
 
Alec Swan said:
The writer of the piece quoted suggested that dogs which are purpose-bred will need something to occupy their minds and to give them purpose and they were right. 'NOT ALWAYS', I accept, but generally greyhounds which are kept as pets never have their freedom to stretch their legs and gallop, and how more don't end up as raving maniacs, is a mystery. They are generally quiet, well mannered and impeccably clean, but those which never have their freedom must wonder if the day will ever arrive when they can do what they were bred for. They do make near perfect house-dogs, I agree, but whether those that live a permanently contained life are happy would be for the owner to decide, and to justify.

I suppose that those dogs which get a 20 minute lead walk every day and never have any freedom could be compared with the person who keeps a horse in its stable and takes it for a daily walk up the road and then puts it back in it's box, never allowing it to be turned out. We are quick to judge one its seems, but not the other! :)

I do know of one greyhound bitch and she came off the track because she simply wouldn't chase the lure. Nothing would persuade her to do so either! She's never on a lead, she doesn't bother with ground game when she's on farm land, and the cats local to her are ignored. She really is the exception though!

When the question of ideal breeds has been raised on here previously, I've suggested that those breeds which are bred predominately for work, and when denied that work or an alternative, can become a nightmare. It seems that 'anonymous' agrees with me, which is unusual for a vet. Of all the vets who I've dealt with over all the years, very few have understood what goes on in the mind of a dog. The bulk of them, certainly today, see our canine companions as a 'living' and we should bear that in mind.

As the writer also said, and correctly, if we remove all those breeds which were bred to do a job, what do we have left? Most breeds were created to serve man, so the list of breeds which were no more than ornaments, will be short.

Some work bred dogs will show no inclination to follow their prescribed paths, but those which do need an alternative if they can't express themselves in their intended manner and the alternative can be just about anything.

Alec.
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You've said this before and so have I, but I honestly dont know anyone with a grey/whippet/lurcher who doesnt let if off the lead. Mine are rarely on it. I dont work them, but I did lure race them on a regular basis until I moved but dont anymore as no one does it round here. But there are off lead every single day, unless its pouring down when the big dog refuses to leave the house :lol:
 
Lévrier;13440124 said:
Mongrels have just as many issues as pure bred breeds - they simply (potentially) store up the issues from both pure bred parents and produce them in duplicate when they have offspring! There is absolutely no such thing as a genetically 'good' dog - you have to choose the right parents and buy from a responsible breeder.

Sorry to be zealous about this but my mum breeds/shows/judges one of the most maligned breeds in the country and NONE of her dogs show the characteristics attributed to the breed, it makes me so cross....

I'll shut up ranting now :o
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Don't shut up I love the fact your mum has helped keep the breed going.
I wish more would look into their health problems more and aim to improve.


So according to this article my plan on getting a blue merle collie, because I've always wanted a blue merle, when our current collie leaves us is not a good enough reason to get one 😭 lol he will be doing obedience / sent training/starting agility which ever of the above he likes more.
 
Aru said:
To be fair as breeds go...
Caveliers can be incredibly health and live long productive lives....if they are coming from repsonsible breeders who arent going for the extreme brachy features and are health testing for cardiac issues etc....

Temperment wise they are some of the most consistently tolerant dogs I meet in practice....and cope incredibly well in an average home...much better then your standard lab or poodle mix...

I havent read the daily fail article though...just checked was it the same comment being quoted!
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We lost our last ckc at 14 with no heart murmur.... Vets were amazed
 
Slightlyconfused said:
Don't shut up I love the fact your mum has helped keep the breed going.
I wish more would look into their health problems more and aim to improve.


So according to this article my plan on getting a blue merle collie, because I've always wanted a blue merle, when our current collie leaves us is not a good enough reason to get one �� lol he will be doing obedience / sent training/starting agility which ever of the above he likes more.
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Thank you SC :) :) :) I know I tend to jump on my own band wagon, so I appreciate your support here :D
 
FrankieCob said:
You've said this before and so have I, but I honestly dont know anyone with a grey/whippet/lurcher who doesnt let if off the lead. Mine are rarely on it. I dont work them, but I did lure race them on a regular basis until I moved but dont anymore as no one does it round here. But there are off lead every single day, unless its pouring down when the big dog refuses to leave the house :lol:
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Totally agree with this FC :)

I will freely admit that I am sick to death of AS quoting his misinformed rubbish on here, he clearly has very. very limited experience of ex-racing greyhounds and still maintains he knows it all - nope, rescue greyhounds make excellent pets, they do not need off-lead exercise every day to be happy and content, etc etc etc

AS can I recommend you volunteer with a reputable greyhound rescue charity so you can actually learn the facts?
 
Lévrier;13441061 said:
Totally agree with this FC :)

I will freely admit that I am sick to death of AS quoting his misinformed rubbish on here, he clearly has very. very limited experience of ex-racing greyhounds and still maintains he knows it all - nope, rescue greyhounds make excellent pets, they do not need off-lead exercise every day to be happy and content, etc etc etc

AS can I recommend you volunteer with a reputable greyhound rescue charity so you can actually learn the facts?
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I used to take my grandmas rescue lurcher up the yard and she would come hacking out with me round the feilds. Ignored everything and was so obedient.
She loved her weekly hacks. Kept up nicely with the horse too.
 
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