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I’m in the process of buying a 2.5 week old foal which will need vetting for insurance purposes however I’m not keen on a foal having flexion tests done at that age, has anyone had any experience with this?
Vetting a 2 1/2 week old foal - Any experience of this?
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The Fuzzy Furry
Getting old disgracefully
I have never heard of a foal that age having flexion tests. Have you got this nugget from the vet or insurance company?
A foal vet cert is nothing like you would expect for a ridden animal.
A foal vet cert is nothing like you would expect for a ridden animal.
ihatework
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Flex a foal? No way.
When I had my yearling vetted I insisted they weren’t flexed, just a good feel of the joints.
When I had my yearling vetted I insisted they weren’t flexed, just a good feel of the joints.
TheMule
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No foal will be flexion tested.
I would not vet such a young foal (assuming it has been responsibly bred and therefore had a basic check and IGG within 24hours of birth). I would place a deposit dependent on a vetting closer to 3 months
I would not vet such a young foal (assuming it has been responsibly bred and therefore had a basic check and IGG within 24hours of birth). I would place a deposit dependent on a vetting closer to 3 months
The Fuzzy Furry
Getting old disgracefully
To add, insurance will require a basic certificate which can be done from 30 days old.
Vet will check heart, eyes, resp rate, umbilicus and conformation and ask about any issues (if any) when it was foaled.
Vet will check heart, eyes, resp rate, umbilicus and conformation and ask about any issues (if any) when it was foaled.
milliepops
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This is what my insurance wanted for my homebred, plus the igg results , they did have a particular form that needed completing so you might want to check that beforehand to make sure everything has been noted.
I managed to get cover from 14 days old.
Abi90
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I have just been researching this to insure my foal and some insurance companies genuinely request 2 and 5 stage vettings on foals! How do you even 5 stage vet a foal?
The Fuzzy Furry
Getting old disgracefully
You cant.
Speak to your vet (particularly if they deal with a lot of foals) and they will be happy to explain what is actually required.
Abi90
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I will. Thank you.
SEIB do state on their website that they require a 2 stage vetting and somewhere else stated that for foals aged 30 days - 1 year they required a 5 stage!! Bonkers
shortstuff99
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My insurance asked for a 5 stage and I said no she was too young and had a 2 stage. They accepted that no problem.
Esmae
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I've bought quite a few foals. Never, ever had one vetted. Never had a problem going forward.
tallyho!
Following a strict mediterranean diet...
Same here. (not with limbs anyway!)
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Unfortunately that isn’t an option as this foal is with a stud whose insurance becomes invalid the instant the foal is sold. It has to stay with the dam until weaning so has to be insured by purchaser, therefore requiring immediate vetting for the insurance.
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With respect this foal is an elite foal so price is high so defo needs vetting.
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Waiting 3 months is not possible as this is an elite foal so has to be secured immediately. From what I can see flexion is not necessary so that’s removed my concern in relation to the vetting.
cauda equina
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The stud must have come across this situation before
Can they not advise you?
Can they not advise you?
Esmae
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I only ever bought donkeys then??? Thanks for that.
sport horse
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In which case I would ask your elite vets advice not Horse & Hound forum members who surely do not have elite horses!!
Goldenstar
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You can’t vet a two and a half week foal it’s unethical and waste of time .
Just before Weaning would the earliest .
Usually you reserve a foal after a healthy delivery and a partial vet check is done just before weaning .
I have never heard of a foal being flex tested ,you are fussing about nothing , even if they did you can simply ask the vet not too .
Just before Weaning would the earliest .
Usually you reserve a foal after a healthy delivery and a partial vet check is done just before weaning .
I have never heard of a foal being flex tested ,you are fussing about nothing , even if they did you can simply ask the vet not too .
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No need to be rude, I can ask who I like, it is a forum after all. The status of the foal is not the question, I am asking if others have experience with flexion tests on foals.
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It is common practice to vet a foal at 2.5 weeks according to some vets I have now spoken with but you are correct that the flexion test is not usually done. However some insurance companies insist on it, I will not be using those particular companies.
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Why are you British so testy with comments? I am just stating it’s an elite foal which in no ways implies others are donkeys. Wow the heck is the matter with you folks lol.
Goldenstar
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How rude you are , do go away .
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You are the rude one. Rather don’t answer someone’s question if you are going to give a snotty answer.
Goldenstar
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It’s unacceptable to make comments based on people nationality .
AmyMay
Situation normal
Perhaps things happen differently on the continent? Either way, I think it’s entirely appropriate and sensible to have your purchase vet checked, but there’s obviously a limit as to what can be done.
Good luck with your purchase.
Good luck with your purchase.
I'm Dun
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Is it an elite foal? I dont think you mentioned it?
Esmae
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Your comment was rude frankly. If that is how you choose to be then don't be surprised if you get a reaction.
windand rain
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I bought an elite foal and had a simple heart, eyes and breathing vetting. Limbs change so could only check a brief toe in out and lower limb. Limb conformations is changing from day one until at least 6 months and probably a year. You can only insure for accident/illness as conformation is pre exsisting or developemental so no cover. I am afraid you pay your money and take a chance
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Thank you for your comment. Yes things are very different where I am, I hadn’t realised that some people don’t get their foals vetted before purchase. Where I am the studs insurance becomes invalid the moment a foal is sold and the purchaser must insure it themselves, these Foals are expensive so it’s just the way it’s done here. I was concerned about a flexion test on such a young foal but it would seem this is not normal practice in the U.K. I think I’ve gone on the wrong forum. Anyway have a lovely day.