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Please can someone help?

I had a horse vetted today. Not my vet but one used by trainer. The horse is a long way from me so i very stupidly had decided not to attend. I had left a list of things i was slightly concerned about & the Vet practice had said that the vet would call me beforehand to chat. He didn't.

He called at 5.15 & told me the horse had passed the five stage vetting. Great news. We chatted through all the things i'd been concerned about. At the end of the conversation he let slip that the trainer hadn't been able to sign the drug withdrawal slip as he thought that the horse had had bute for a minor field injury 7 or 8 days ago.

I queried this & he said that he didn't think the horse had been given it to 'cover anything up' But isn't it ridiculous to vet a horse that the trainer openly admits may well still have bute in it's system? Am i making a big deal out of this? I'm planning on calling my vet in the morning.

Interested to hear other people's views. Thanks
 
I would refuse to pay for vetting, they should have contacted you before as arrange, and definately should have contacted you to see if you wanted vetting to continue when the bute issue arose, I would pay for call out out of good will but nothing more and TBH would expect them to waiver all fees.
 
I would expect them to do the vetting FOC again after the withdrawal period .
Not sure though if the vet would know about the bute though until the end of the vetting .
You need to check with the vet carefully before firing any bullets it's the trainers fault really try to do a deal with the trainer over any additional cost .
 
Bute is out of the system in 7 days

FEI List of Detection Times


Detection time (hours)
Phenylbutazone Equipalazone (Arnolds) 4.4 mg/kg/5 days/2x/day 168 hrs (7d)

Equipalazone, Intervet SA 8.8 mg/kg/2x/day 1 + 4.4 mg/kg/2x/day for 10 days 168 hrs (7days)
 
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Broke_But_Happy said:
I would have thought the bute would be out of the horses system after 7 days?
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Should be, yes. Which is why I'd be concerned about the trainer's refusal to sign the withdrawal slip - he must have known he was going to be asked so why on earth wasn't he upfront about the bute before the vetting started? Or postponed the vetting.
I'd insist the vetting was repeated, at the trainer's expense.
 
A quick update.

Apparently the trainer did sign the slip but later (i think) told the vet about the bute so a note was added. The vet is saying that bute would be out of the system after 7 days so horse should test clear.

It is quite a well known racehorse trainer & they do seem to have a good reputation when they sell their horses on. I'm feeling happier but am going to run it by my vet first thing.

With regard to not using their vet, i was under the impression that these days it is actually beneficial as they are legally obliged to declare any visits & treatments. It was also very tricky to find an equine vet that they didn't use, like many big yards they use all three of the 'local' vets. What do other people do? Maybe i should have asked my vet to recommend one?

I'm going to sleep on it & talk to my vet in the morning.

Thank you to everyone that took the trouble to reply.
 
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