vetting deposit

[worzelwoman]

hi im looking for some advice, i advertised my horse with a melomona, so when the lady come she knew about it and i showed her it, it was quite large, the lady left a deposit and arranged a vetting. when the vet came and did the vetting he mentioned about the melomona. after doing the full 5 stage vetting in the poring rain and in a muddy field. they decided to take bloods . at the end of the vetting they came over and spoke to me and said that they were not going any further as of the melomona as the has discussed it the night before on the phone. right do i give the lady her deposit back or not as the had already decided by the sounds of things the night before. the vet did not say that she had failed her vetting he just said if she was veted again she would fail because of it ( i knew she would fail because of it 0 can someone advise please

 

[AmyMay]

Yes.

 

[Carmen6]

If she's paid for a 5 stage vetting she's already out hundreds of pounds.

It doesn't sound like she's trying to mess you around. I would return the deposit.

 

[ycbm]

I don't think she's entitled to her money back because it was declared in the advert. She's been naive not to consult the vet before paying the deposit, and now she will need to pay a vet fee that's going cost her a lot of money, and I would return it.
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[worzelwoman]

If she's paid for a 5 stage vetting she's already out hundreds of pounds.

It doesn't sound like she's trying to mess you around. I would return the deposit.

my concern is that they had already decided the night before, she decided not to go any further, so it was not a vetting fail.

 

[ycbm]

my concern is that they had already decided the night before, she decided not to go any further, so it was not a vetting fail.

What's the "concern"? You declared it, the vet didn't just find it, but they have advised against buying. You probably don't legally owe her any money but she's £400 or so down in her horse search through her own naivety and most decent people would give the money back, especially in this market where horses are selling easily.
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[Carmen6]

my concern is that they had already decided the night before, she decided not to go any further, so it was not a vetting fail.

I don't know where you stand contractually / legally; returning her deposit would just be the good sport thing to do, in my humble opinion.

Out of curiosity, how long was it between her paying the deposit and her deciding she didn't want the horse?

 

[Bionic Boy]

But she had not seen the size of the melanoma so maybe didn't realise the size of it and that made the difference to her going ahead.
You have done nothing wrong and been completely up front and honest but for an easy life I think I would return the deposit.

 

[worzelwoman]

I don't know where you stand contractually / legally; returning her deposit would just be the good sport thing to do, in my humble opinion.

Out of curiosity, how long was it between her paying the deposit and her deciding she didn't want the horse?

 

[worzelwoman]

it was a week ,so she had plenty of time to talk to the vet . i had taken the advert down as she asked me too and contacted other people that were interested and said a deposit had been taken.

 

[worzelwoman]

But she had not seen the size of the melanoma so maybe didn't realise the size of it and that made the difference to her going ahead.
You have done nothing wrong and been completely up front and honest but for an easy life I think I would return the deposit.

she saw the size of it when she viewed the horse twice

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

Being a decent person you should give her the deposit back, these things happen and you still have the horse - you haven't lost out on any money. Legally I don't believe you would have to however.

The ethics of selling a horse with a sizeable melanoma however, I will leave for another thread

ETA: I don't really know why you have posted on here to ask, it seems as though you are determined to keep on until you get the answer you want? As though you want someone to say it's okay so you don't have to refund?

 

[ycbm]

she saw the size of it when she viewed the horse twice

She obviously didn't know the implications of a melanoma for shortening horses lives or causing uninsurable problems and the vet couldn't advise until he saw it. You couldn't pay me to take one on.

How old is the horse?
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[worzelwoman]

She obviously didn't know the implications of a melanoma for shortening horses lives or causing uninsurable problems and the vet couldn't advise until he saw it. You couldn't pay me to take one on.

How old is the horse?
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hse is 11 years , such a sweet girl and it doesnt bother her, i was saling her for half the price because the melomona

 

[ihatework]

Sounds like a very naive buyer. Lots of them about at the moment.

From your perspective, the melanoma was declared, they viewed the horse twice and had plenty of time to research melanoma and decide whether to put down a deposit/arrange a vetting. So their inexperience has completely wasted your time and for that reason I understand why you would be reluctant to refund.

Refunding might be the ‘nice’ thing to do though I suppose, begrudgingly ?

 

[cobgoblin]

I'm confused. If the melanoma was discussed with the vet the night before and it was decided not to purchase, why did the vet do a full vetting? Why take bloods?
Surely the vet could just have looked at the melanoma and phoned her, or discussed with her if she was present?

 

[ycbm]

hse is 11 years , such a sweet girl and it doesnt bother her, i was saling her for half the price because the melomona

Her vet thinks the risk is too high, sadly for all of you. It must be very frustrating to be in this situation.

If there are costs of readvertising and keeping her you could perhaps agree a partial refund. Is she demanding the money back?
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[ycbm]

I'm confused. If the melanoma was discussed with the vet the night before and it was decided not to purchase, why did the vet do a full vetting? Why take bloods?
Surely the vet could just have looked at the melanoma and phoned her, or discussed with her if she was present?

As a buyer I'd certainly be having a chat with the vet if they went ahead with a full five stage and then advised against buying because of a melanoma they were told about before the vetting started.
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[Ownedby4horses]

Frustrating but I’d refund the deposit. Perhaps as Ycbm says minus the advert fee, then you’re not out of pocket.

You are likely to get in this position again with another buyer, as most will likely want a vet to check it before they make a decision, so Perhaps leave the new advert up until horse is paid for and collected (you can always add “awaiting collection” to the add when you get a new buyer).

 

[Red-1]

I would refund. The deposit was presumably to hold the horse pending a suitable vetting result. The lady knew about the melanoma and was prepared to investigate it further on a vetting, but the vet as apparently advised against purchase.

It is a grey area but, as the horse didn't pass the vetting, then I would refund.