vetting failed on 1/10th lame

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finally found a horse that meets all my requirements and failed the vetting today being 1/10th lame ,vet said its so subtle that he questioned it himself ,said if i get it re-vetted in two weeks may not be the same outcome ,what to do re-vet or forget the horse ? :(:(
 
Wasn't mine was it? :D This happened to me about 3 weeks ago, but I was the seller and they said they would get re-vetted and they never got in touch again :( shame because they were just the right home for her.

If you like the horse enough get it re-vetted.
 
hiya and thanks if you live in cheshire it may of been your mare lol,this one was a warmblood 17hh ,gonna speak to the seller im prepared to get it re-vetted i think .
 
Definitely not mine then, its a real shame when people are put off one such little things but I do understand vettings are expensive for it to fail a second time. Yours just rang a bell with me because the vet for mine wasn't sure he could even see it either! So frustrating.
 
I would also re-vet.

Though, my horse passed on 1/10th lame - I had two fab years with him and then last year the leg he was lame on has led to his semi-retirement with ringbone and osteoarthritis. Wouldnt have changed whether I bought him or not though!
 
Just curious: anyone that has had a horse re-vetted,did u use same vet 2nd time? I know there's an argument that same vet can make comparison to how it looked 1st time but is there any value in getting a different vet(?better/more experienced/senior partner or whatever?) 2nd time around,so that you are actually getting a 2nd opinion on the lameness? If it was do borderline,I wonder if another vet might not even see it/think it was lame OR might see it straightaway and therefore confirm suspicions? Just wondered,as it's a quandary I guess,if you've found right horse and chucking £200 odd quid round for 5-stars isn't funny:-/
 
think i will re-vet ,not sure if i will use same vet guess thers pros and cons to that,im just so gutted,i let the seller know what the vet said via txt but ive had no reply ,will she think im not intrested?
 
Speak to the seller properly and see if they are happy to wait for another vetting, a text is not really a nice way to contact in the circumstances they are going to be gutted as much, if not more than you are.

A second vetting with the same vet would be the best way as they can start with a lameness check and stop before doing any more if it is not right, a different vet may keep going and still find the lameness but you will have to pay for a complete vetting.
 
should the seller not get some investigations into the fact the horse is 1/10th lame? if it were my horse I would want to know why, i wouldnt want to pass it on to someone else if it might have a problem?
 
Was it a 5 stage vetting? If the horse passed all other aspects you could just have a 2 stage vetting 2 weeks later?
I would speak to the seller they may go halves with you on the second vetting??
 
The last time I had one fail it was fine 2 days later, it had just bruised its sole and flew through when the vet came back.

I dont see any reason at this stage to scan or x-ray, it would need to be nerve blocked to find where the lameness is and possibly will sound when the vet goes back anyway.

As a seller if something fails I would usually get my vet to look at it, I have done this including x-rays once only to find nothing wrong, sometimes it is just bad luck a simple knock in the field can cause a days slight soreness which if not being vetted could go unnoticed.
 
kerrieberry2 said:
should the seller not get some investigations into the fact the horse is 1/10th lame? if it were my horse I would want to know why, i wouldnt want to pass it on to someone else if it might have a problem?
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I agree I would have it checked too ,I'm going to call her tomorrow discuss options ,thing is the horse is just what I want it took lots of travelling around the country to find her ,nothing is ever simple!!
 
kerrieberry2 said:
should the seller not get some investigations into the fact the horse is 1/10th lame? if it were my horse I would want to know why, i wouldnt want to pass it on to someone else if it might have a problem?
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be positive said:
The last time I had one fail it was fine 2 days later, it had just bruised its sole and flew through when the vet came back.

I dont see any reason at this stage to scan or x-ray, it would need to be nerve blocked to find where the lameness is and possibly will sound when the vet goes back anyway.

As a seller if something fails I would usually get my vet to look at it, I have done this including x-rays once only to find nothing wrong, sometimes it is just bad luck a simple knock in the field can cause a days slight soreness which if not being vetted could go unnoticed.
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How long do I wait till I re-vet?
 
Discuss it with the owner, they may have some idea as to why it was lame, ask the vet for some more clarification, was it lame on initial trot up, after flexion or during work, when it was lame will have relevance as to why and how long it may need. To just say it was 1/10 lame is not really telling you enough to make any judgement on how to proceed.
Another possibility is it may just need shoeing sellers often dont get the horse shod close to vetting so something else to consider.
 
Speak to seller advise them that as you've paid for one vetting and it's failed, you're prepared to keep interest in the horse and have it revetted in a few weeks if they think it will pass, and arrange that if it fails then the seller pays the second vetting fee, you pay only if it passes???
 
The time this happened to me ( five stage vetting ) only the part of the vetting that showed up the lameness was repeated so it did not take Long and was not too expensive.
If you like the horse get it done again OP.
 
Well apparently the vet said it was when he put her on the lunge on a small circle he could see it , although she was lunged on a gravely surface so maybe this had an effect ??
 
Flossy1 said:
Well apparently the vet said it was when he put her on the lunge on a small circle he could see it , although she was lunged on a gravely surface so maybe this had an effect ??
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Of course it will have had an affect this is a really hard test of soundness and many horses will not pass it but lead normal lives.
What where the horses shoes like if she was due to be shod that can be enough to cause subtle lameness in this test.
Was it both sides In which case i would be less worried but if it's one side then it has to be moore of a worry as lack of evenness always flags up more of a problem.
Remember there is no diagnostic element to your vetting the why won't come into it that's for the seller to worry about
If the horse needed shoeing get the seller to get it done pronto loads of horses fail vettings as the seller is trying to save on the cost of a new set of shoes.
 
Flossy1 said:
finally found a horse that meets all my requirements and failed the vetting today being 1/10th lame ,vet said its so subtle that he questioned it himself ,said if i get it re-vetted in two weeks may not be the same outcome ,what to do re-vet or forget the horse ? :(:(
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I'd get it re-vetted.

Ask the vendor to have her vet look at the leg/foot that's the problem, and make a recommendation on time frame. But I would look to have it re-vetted within a two week timeframe.
 
I'd only ever re-vet if there was a visible possible explanation for why the horse wasn't right on the day of the first vetting. In this situation I would walk away and keep looking.
 
competitiondiva said:
Speak to seller advise them that as you've paid for one vetting and it's failed, you're prepared to keep interest in the horse and have it revetted in a few weeks if they think it will pass, and arrange that if it fails then the seller pays the second vetting fee, you pay only if it passes???
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If I was the seller I wouldn't pay for your vetting, you could be a time waster

I've bought horses which were 1/10th lame and have never had other problems, it was actually caused by a heavy unbalanced rider and once he was out of the picture the horse came sound. Have a look at the bigger picture for possible causes.

Also bear in mind a flexion test can make any horse look lame, so I would take a 1/10th diagnosis with a huge pinch of salt
 
Goldenstar said:
Of course it will have had an affect this is a really hard test of soundness and many horses will not pass it but lead normal lives.
What where the horses shoes like if she was due to be shod that can be enough to cause subtle lameness in this test.
Was it both sides In which case i would be less worried but if it's one side then it has to be moore of a worry as lack of evenness always flags up more of a problem.
Remember there is no diagnostic element to your vetting the why won't come into it that's for the seller to worry about
If the horse needed shoeing get the seller to get it done pronto loads of horses fail vettings as the seller is trying to save on the cost of a new set of shoes.
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Agree with this, many horses in work would fail this test, but lead normal working lives
 
Also bear in mind a flexion test can make any horse look lame, so I would take a 1/10th diagnosis with a huge pinch of salt
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This wasn't due to a rider, or flexion tests - it was being lunged on a hard surface, which is a great way to see how sound a horse really is.
 
Hi the flection tests were ok ,it was just in the trot up he noticed it , I'm getting her re vetted in two weeks by the same vet so we will see what he has to say then, oh and she had just been shod 3 days before the vetting !!
Thanks
 
If she was shod just before thats maybe why?
Ive got one atm that was ever so slightly lame on a tight circle on solid ground, so frustrating, luckily im not selling/buying her, but if she was more lame we might know why, or find out easier..
 
If it passed the flexion tests and was only 1/10 lame (possibly?) on a lunge circle on gravel, I'd be inclined to buy anyway, unless it was for a seriously expensive top competition horse.

If he passed flexion tests then he's probably not got joint problems - implying if there is anything it's likely to be in the foot, which would make me think it's not serious. I have also found that vets always err on the side of caution with regard to vettings; there's so much risk of them being sued if they miss something...

As another point.... I've bought 2 horses following failed vettings - that have never had a day lame... Yet the 1 that passed a vetting with no advisory notes or anything... Has OCD and we've since found out that the seller knew this beforehand, so it hasn't developed since...
 
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