WARNING - Yorshire Area

[Kenzo]

I was informed last night that police have been visiting yards advising them to look out for a white transit van with

'Mandale Paving'

on the side, 56 reg , they are known to the police, they are 3 travellers sussing out farms/livery stables and may be linked to some of the break ins in the last month, not only that but they are known to be dangerous.

Please pass this on, be on your guard and up your yard/farm security, this info came from our local farrier.

Also posted in NL.

 

[kiss22]

I dont come on here often but just want to share what I encountered.

I live on a farm in the harrogate area and on tuesday evening this van was driving over our crop fields deliberately making a mess. This is not a hoax at all, its all true.

We hadnt heard about this van before so tried to approach them and block them off, as soon as they saw us they took off over more crop fields. I managed to get infront and corner them off but they reversed and drove straight at me at speed managing to get away through a small gap.

There were 3 men in the van with a dog, golden labrador type. The van had Mandale Paving written over it, looked professionally done, was 56 reg transit type.

Police had heard about the van before when we reported it.

Please look out for the van, it really isnt a hoax. We've been advised by the police to call 999 if it appears again

 

[Kenzo]

Really, oh my god, well thank you for letting us know, wish it was a hoax but clearly is not the case, I shall let my friend know who got the text from our farrier.

Thank you

 

[kiss22]

Ive just heard through a friend the van has been sighted in Harrogate within the last 15 minutes, police have been called, lets hope they get them

 

[Kenzo]

Wow that great news, yes lets hope they get hold of them, thanks for letting us all know.

 

[not_with_it]

There is also a shogan *i think* or a 4x4 vehicle that is doing the rounds and travelling from West / South / North Yorkshire. Keep an eye on your horseboxes too as a lot are being stolen in the area.

I recommend you join West Yorkshire horsewatch if you havent already done so. They will send you regular emails on whats going on in the area.

 

[PickledOnions]

I'm in Yorkshire atm, on holiday and I went riding with friends today, and got told about this, they are apparently after horses and or tack.

 

[Cazzah]

This isn't a hoax. The van was sighted around a livery yard near Doncaster and yesterday they were cleaned out - tack, rugs and even feed!! After losing all my stuff last year I can completely sympathise - hope they catch the thieving barstewards this time :-(

 

[MerryRowy]

Well done for the warning.

Last year Syorks got hit very badly. The yard i was at was pretty much asking to be burgled which is exactly what happened. Had my own things stolen also, hope they get caught!

 

[Kenzo]

I was actually talking to my OH about this and he too has seen the van around the Thorne area (which is near Doncaster) he said there were three men, 2 ginger haired, other had brown hair.

 

[Cyclops]

Dont know what the men looked like but three men in a red car (this was three weeks ago so may have changed vehicle?) stole our lorry in broad daylight - 11.00 am - from just south of Bawtry - South Yorkshire - it seems to me that an awful lot of these thefts are centred around the M18/A1 - Any ideas anyone - Are the police doing much or do we have to find them for the police to deal with??? The police just seem to think we can claim on insurance so until someone gets hurt trying to stop them from taking our property it's down to us

 

[not_with_it]

Thats a bit harsh

Just because you cant see what the police are doing it doesnt mean they arent doing anything.
A lot of these people are using vehicles which arent registered or have previous owner details only. Unless people pass on descriptions of drivers and occupants the police cant do anything. In this case though they are doing something.

 

[Cyclops]

The police were notified within 10 to 15 minutes of the lorry being stolen - it was probably still on the A1 - all they had to do was notify patrol cars but didnt seem keen and certainly werent prepared to put a helicopter up!! (I can understand that) afterall it was only worth about £25,000 plus all the tack and belongings on board!!! They have not even been to see us - they just took details over the phone and gave us a crime number for insurance purposes - no wonder our premiums are going up

 

[Cyclops]

Just noticed another post - this one from cuffey - about her lorry stolen, again from near Doncaster, complete with tack etc. etc. etc. - Her was taken in late September, ours early October. A1M18 access - are they in Ireland now or eastern Europe?

 

[_daisy_]

ive got to agreew with you. my landy got stolen in Jan this year with a lot of stuff in it. the police eventually came out. i ran them with 2 addresses of where it could be - did they go? no. were they bothered? no. they even rang me 1 month later just to let me know they hadnt found it. i unfortunatley told them I already knew that or it wouldve been returned.
dont think the police will approach gypsies.

 

[HazellB]

The police ate utterly crap at catching thieves like this - even when they do grab them charges are never pressed.

Had my entire pet food business stolen by these three Mandale men and had to actually track down my goods myself. Everything had been sold via an auction in Pennistone, West Yorks, by a company called Wilby's Auctioneers. They paid the 'sellers' cash, even though they supplied no phone numbers, ID or anything and my name, buisness name and phone number was on every crate the goods were sold in!

The police have done NOTHING at all. I got nothing back. the auctioneers broke the law and weren't even warned about it.

The police eventually agreed they'd messed up when I officially complained, but still haven't done anything.

These thieves stay in one police area, steal in another then sell in a third. That way they can take advantage of police forces not co-ordinating with each other. Scum.

 

[cloppy]

my friend had her yard broken into and had a rough idea who it was , she made some enquiries herself and went to the thieves house and saw her tack through the kitchen window, she rang the police and asked for back up but noone came so she demanded her tack back and eventually got it. The thieves h ave now been back and she heard the noise and went outside, it was the same gang again. They escaped empty handed this time so she told the police where they lived but sadly they cant go round as its not their area lol

 

[not_with_it]

I can agree with some of the comments but some officers work bloody hard for little reward.
They get slated a lot for not sending people to court but in most cases it isnt the police that get to decide who does and who doesnt go to court.

All I will say is that unless people actually know how the police force runs it really isnt fair to comment in most cases. People expect the impossible from them and have a paddy when there is nothing more they can do. IMO police are understaffed and underpaid.
Like all jobs there are lazy people who try to get away with doing as little as possible. Unfortunately people always talk about bad experiences not the good ones.

 

[maybedaisy]

Whether a person is charged or not is often determined by the Crown Prosecution Service not the Police. Whether a person is given bail at Court is determined by the Magistrates not the Police.

Giving the Police addresses as to where a stolen vehicle 'might be' with no information or evidence to suggest that it is, is a waste of time. You may think that a certain section of society have taken it, but can you prove it.

Once a vehicle is reported stolen it goes on the Police National Computer so that any Police officer checking it would know that it was stolen.

I very much doubt that the Police said that they wouldn't go to a suspected thieves house because it was not their area. Had it been another force area they would have directed the information to that force, or would have informed them and attended themselves.

My yard was broken into 5 times last winter, all the more frustrating as I am a Police Officer. I don't leave tack at the yard after I had it all stolen in 1991. All my rugs are permanently marked and I only leave up there what I have to. Its not ideal but I don't have electricity so can't have cctv or an alarm.

It may interest you to know that a third of a city as big as Leeds maybe covered by as few as 13 Police Officers between 11pm and 7am. With the Domestic disputes, Assaults, Burglaries and Anti Social Behaviour it doesn't leave a lot of time for anything else.

 

[HazellB]

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I very much doubt that the Police said that they wouldn't go to a suspected thieves house because it was not their area. Had it been another force area they would have directed the information to that force, or would have informed them and attended themselves.



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My goods were stolen in the Humberside area and sold on in South Yorkshire and I can assure you that after calling Humberside three days running to inform them of this, I still hadn't had one word back. I called South Yorkshire in frusration and they REFUSED to visit the auctioneers until Humberside had been contacted. Then it appears they didn't even contact Humberside. Another day went by before I officially complained and eventually South Yorkshire called me to ask if I could go to a Humberside station and give all of my details yet again to get the ball rolling. The two forces simply refused to contact each other directly and I had to act as a go-between.
It was several days before a real officer was involved in any of the investigation in any way.

Anyway, both forces have apologised for their actions now.

 

[maybedaisy]

If the goods had already been sold and weren't at the auction house then I'm afraid the priority of dealing with it will have been lower. The Police simply don't have the resources to deal with everything immediatley. In my Force crimes are allocated to an officer to make enquiries. Obviously that Officer will not be on duty all the time and when information comes in if it is not urgent then a record will be made so that the Officer can read it when they are next on duty. I'm sorry you did not get the service you expected.