Wart disruption

[Birker2020]

Our 10yr old beagle bitch has had a crop of warts develop on her face but had an original wart which she has scratched with her back foot and caused to bleed. It's on the side of her face below her ear. She's had previous warts biopsies and they were benign.

We noticed it yesterday morning and I quickly cleaned it before work with cotton wool soaked in warm water, removed the matted fur and dried blood and dried it to allow it to air.

Partner also did this yesterday afternoon.

She has obviously scratched it open again this morning. Partner has sent me a photo asking if it's a vet job. I think it might be infected.

We have steroid cream left from the vet when she was prescribed this 12th Sept for grass mites on the top of her front legs from gokng through tall grass, do you think we should use this or is it not a good idea on an open wound?

It is a very small area, the photo which has been magnified on google magnifier makes it look a lot worse than it is. Its probably the size of a penny.

EDITED TO SAY: Partner managed to get vet appointment at 10am today!

Please, I'd be grateful if you could keep answers directed to the question and civil. Thanks

 

[Sparky Lily]

Our nearly 14 year old beagle has a huge (about 2in diameter), and growing, wart above one eye. It scabs, and bleeds, daily. He also has a heart condition which means the vets don’t want to sedate him, so removal is not an option. We did have some cream which dried it up, but that made it even more itchy. So we cope with bloodstained cushions etc! Our youngest beagle is a natural nurse, and we have found that she keeps the area clean for him.
So long as our boy is not distressed by it, we can cope with a bit of extra housework. Your vet may be able to offer more options - hope so.

 

[Birker2020]

Our nearly 14 year old beagle has a huge (about 2in diameter), and growing, wart above one eye. It scabs, and bleeds, daily. He also has a heart condition which means the vets don’t want to sedate him, so removal is not an option. We did have some cream which dried it up, but that made it even more itchy. So we cope with bloodstained cushions etc! Our youngest beagle is a natural nurse, and we have found that she keeps the area clean for him.
So long as our boy is not distressed by it, we can cope with a bit of extra housework. Your vet may be able to offer more options - hope so.

Gosh beagles must be prone to warts for some reason. Sorry to hear about your boy, bless him.

She only started getting warts about four years ago, it started with one on her side, we had it biopsied last year and it was benign. Then she ended up with another two on her legs and the current poorly one on the side of her face. Then about three weeks ago she had a crop of tiny little ones on her face that came from nowhere. This is the one on her face that she's scratched again today.

Its a nightmare! Partner had bloodstains on his duvet cover from her.

 

[tda]

Our oldest terrier has one, very small, but it's on the top of his head, so even tho I can see it's been disturbed and scabbed over he doesn't make a mess.
He also has another couple of growths that he sometimes licks and makes bleed, he's not having a GA so I just manage them

 

[Sparky Lily]

Gosh beagles must be prone to warts for some reason. Sorry to hear about your boy, bless him.

She only started getting warts about four years ago, it started with one on her side, we had it biopsied last year and it was benign. Then she ended up with another two on her legs and the current poorly one on the side of her face. Then about three weeks ago she had a crop of tiny little ones on her face that came from nowhere. This is the one on her face that she's scratched again today.

Its a nightmare! Partner had bloodstains on his duvet cover from her.

Hugo has smaller ones all over, and I worry that this big one will interfere with his eye at some stage. But for now, it does not really bother him, so we just have throws on the sofa and chairs and keep cleaning up after him. The young bitch has been a real help - he is nowhere near so itchy since she has been taking care of him.
Hugo sleeps on our bed. We switched to the coverless duvets which can be washed and dried in a few hours.

 

[FinnishLapphund]

Hope the vet visit can offer you some help.

Blomma have had a few warts for several years now. Some years ago when she only had one that was a bit large (I kept mistaking it for a tick), and she was needing to go through surgery for other reasons, I asked them to remove it. A year or so later another one came up at another place on her head, and later 2 more at other places, but she's never been bothered by any of them.
The fact that your bitch have other warts that doesn't bother her, but single out one of the warts as itchy, would worry me. But maybe I'm just paranoid.

 

[Birker2020]

Hope the vet visit can offer you some help.

The fact that your bitch have other warts that doesn't bother her, but single out one of the warts as itchy, would worry me. But maybe I'm just paranoid.

She's been incredibly itchy lately since she had spot on and then four days later I bathed her (about a month ago now.)

Thinking I'd not rinsed her (I used my own shampoo as her's had run out) I rinsed her again. Partner put her in bath of water covering her whole body.

Went to the vets around 12th Sept and got given steroid cream and partner sprayed spot on stuff on vets advice again.

The only thing I can think it's that we have replaced a glade plug in with another brand about five weeks ago. She had also run through a field of corn around that time and gone through a sheep field of long grass. These are the only anomalies.

The other warts she'd struggle to reach to scratch.

 

[skinnydipper]

I would have liked to reply but I suspect I'm not allowed

 

[Birker2020]

UPDATE:

So following her appointment with the vet, the vet says Summer has an infected hotspot which are areas of infected skin that are red and wet, they can be found anywhere on the body, they increase in size dramatically. They cause itching, and dogs will lick, bite or scratch. It can be caused by environmental factors as well as food allergies, foreign body, flea and mite infestation and ear infections which she also has had recently.

The area needs to be hibiscrubbed and then Isaderm cream applied. No antibiotics which has surprised me but partner say hibiscrub will be enough to treat the infection.

She also has to have one very strong tablet which is a flea/mite/tick treatment once a month for three months to break the cycle. I think partner is on about Bravecto but not sure as that says it lasts for 3 months on the internet. Its £35 a tablet anyway, said he can probably get everything cheaper via prescription.

I still think he needs to put a cone or similar on her.

Glad he managed to get her in to be seen so quickly.

 

[skinnydipper]

Isaderm contains an antibiotic and a steroid.

I know you don't want to hear this but for Summer's sake I'll try again.

Today you have said she is incredibly itchy, her skin on the photo thread doesn't look great, once again she has had ear infections and now she has a hot spot.

If she was mine I would ditch any and all plugs-ins, diffusers and fragrances.

I would put her back on to Purina HA, and absolutely nothing else.

If her vet hasn't recommended any special shampoo then I would try Douxo S3 Pyo which is antibacterial and anti yeast, or Coatex.

I know what it is like to have allergies and I know what it is like to have a dog with allergies, its miserable, so if she was my dog I would be trying to cover as many bases as I could.

 

[CorvusCorax]

This is absolutely related, please don't use human shampoo on a dog and bin the plug-ins.

 

[Birker2020]

This is absolutely related, please don't use human shampoo on a dog and bin the plug-ins.

We have binned the plug ins, we had run out of the Johnsons no more tears which we've used on her previously.

 

[CorvusCorax]

No worries, you're probably best using a shampoo for dogs or in this case, something medicated like the types SD has suggested or Malaseb as dogs have a different PH level. But I personally like to keep hotspots as dry as possible.

 

[skinnydipper]

Dog shampoo always.

Human, even if it is baby shampoo, can irritate a dog's skin

 

[Birker2020]

No worries, you're probably best using a shampoo for dogs or in this case, something medicated like the types SD has suggested or Malaseb as dogs have a different PH level. But I personally like to keep hotspots as dry as possible.

Are hotspots common? I've never heard of this before. It presented a bit like mud fever, like sebum and fur stuck together.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Are hotspots common? I've never heard of this before. It presented a bit like mud fever, like sebum and fur stuck together.

Yes they are pretty common in certain breeds.

 

[FinnishLapphund]

Just in case you stumble over some info saying Bravecto is bad, I'll just say that when Bravecto came out several years ago there was some talk about that some dogs had bad reactions to it. But my at the time 3 bitches used it for 1 or 2 years during the tick season without a problem. Then I switched to NexGard, simply because at least then the tick season usually only was about 7 to max 8 months long, and I felt it was unnecessary for them to have Bravecto in their system for 1 to 2 months extra than what they actually needed.

Hope the combined treatments works relatively quickly on the hotspot.

My late Beata developed a tiny hotspot one hot Summer when we had often gone to a lake for a bit of swimming to cool off. It was only the size of a really small coin, and quite difficult to find in her thick fluffy coat.

 

[Birker2020]

Just in case you stumble over some info saying Bravecto is bad, I'll just say that when Bravecto came out several years ago there was some talk about that some dogs had bad reactions to it. But my at the time 3 bitches used it for 1 or 2 years during the tick season without a problem. Then I switched to NexGard, simply because at least then the tick season usually only was about 7 to max 8 months long, and I felt it was unnecessary for them to have Bravecto in their system for 1 to 2 months extra than what they actually needed.

Hope the combined treatments works relatively quickly on the hotspot.

My late Beata developed a tiny hotspot one hot Summer when we had often gone to a lake for a bit of swimming to cool off. It was only the size of a really small coin, and quite difficult to find in her thick fluffy coat.

Ah just got home and can see it's Nexgard Spectra and not Bravecto.

Poor girly she looks like a patchwork quilt. Today's gift from her was a bit of cotton wool

Whenever one of us is hurt we say "aw poor mummy, poor daddy" and she gives you a kiss!

When you say "aw poor Summer" she gives you a big kiss anyway and then does Zoomies to show she's okay really! ❤❤

 

[Errin Paddywack]

Are hotspots common? I've never heard of this before. It presented a bit like mud fever, like sebum and fur stuck together.

My friend's TMs get them, she is struggling with one of them at the moment as she has several. She treats her dogs homoeopathically and everything they get is organic so hard to know what triggers them.

 

[Birker2020]

I have to say I am absolutely appalled at what we have been charged for the flea treatment. My partner rang the vets when he got home to say he had discovered the packet of Nexguard he was given only had one tablet in it when the pack AND the label clearly says it should contain three.

They have said the price is correct and it would have been over £90 if we'd had all 3 tablets. I've just queried it with them again and they have confirmed we have been charged correctly! I've just gone on three pet drug websites and the price is circa £24/£25 for 3 tablets!

I am livid. We will get a prescription for the next time and go elsewhere.

That is ripping people off and I am sure it is illegal too. It's like taking crisps out of a multi pack and selling them individually and the label is very misleading to pet owners who believe they are getting what they have paid for!

 

[Clodagh]

If you can get nexguard spectra online for less than £10 a tab that is amazing. Are you sure it is the spectra you are looking at?

 

[Birker2020]

If you can get nexguard spectra online for less than £10 a tab that is amazing. Are you sure it is the spectra you are looking at?

 

[Birker2020]

If you can get nexguard spectra online for less than £10 a tab that is amazing. Are you sure it is the spectra you are looking at?

Yep

 

[Birker2020]

I've told him 100 times if we use a referral vets for routine stuff they will charge an arm and a leg. But he says we'd end up being referred there anyway.

I said only if it was something that needed a specialised vet, for routine stuff 'normal vets' are sufficient.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Has she actually got any parasites?

For persistent itching/discomfort associated with allergies lot of vets will suggest a Cytopoint injection and/or Apoquel.

 

[Errin Paddywack]

My vets tried to give me Nexgard when all I had asked for was wormers. Bill for two dogs was £140. I took it back and complained, they refunded £120. I will not use flea treatment unless I know my dogs have fleas and mine didn't. Never known my vets rip me off before but they tried this time.

 

[Clodagh]

CC has said this but unless you are seeing fleas on her I wouldn’t dump another load of chemicals into a dog that obviously has a lot of ongoing health issues and allergies.
Sorry if I’ve missed that she does have them.

 

[Birker2020]

CC has said this but unless you are seeing fleas on her I wouldn’t dump another load of chemicals into a dog that obviously has a lot of ongoing health issues and allergies.
Sorry if I’ve missed that she does have them.

The vet feels she has grass mites this time. She's already had the tablet.

 

[skinnydipper]

Did the vet explain why the anti parasitic treatment applied recently wasn't effective?

Are they visible to the naked eye or did your vet do a skin scrape and look at it under a microscope to confirm that she has an infestation of grass mites?


ETA. Sorry for all the questions. I've never had a dog infested with grass mites and I'm interested in learning more about them.

 

[Clodagh]

Did the vet explain why the anti parasitic treatment applied recently wasn't effective?

Are they visible to the naked eye or did your vet do a skin scrape and look at it under a microscope to confirm that she has an infestation of grass mites?


ETA. Sorry for all the questions. I've never had a dog infested with grass mites and I'm interested in learning more about them.

I googled and I see they are what I call harvest mites. The woolly terriers used to get these occasionally but they were clearly visible between their toes. They are small, but not too small to see.
Birker can you see anything? Between her toes?