Watching Uthopia's auction.........

His competitive career may be all but over, but he has value as a breeding stallion

Wasn't his stud fee quite low? And as I understand, none of the foals he has sired are old enough to see if his progeny are successful.
Just seems a bit of a questionable business decision, especially at 165k. But then, I'm not Carl Hester and I didn't ride him at the Olympics. I suppose their bond/memories/whatever counts for something too.
 
Wasn't his stud fee quite low? And as I understand, none of the foals he has sired are old enough to see if his progeny are successful.
Just seems a bit of a questionable business decision, especially at 165k. But then, I'm not Carl Hester and I didn't ride him at the Olympics. I suppose their bond/memories/whatever counts for something too.

His stud fee was 1.5k so yeah, pretty low.
 
Not that past it... remember what he qualified for at Christmas with Charlotte?! only he wasn't allowed out of the country so she couldn't defend her title...
 
I remember the controversy when another famous horse was "lost" in a card game, the riders concern was that people would pay a lot to have a "lesson" on such a horse..............there are unscrupulous people who only see £££££. Let's hope he is staying where he is, as did the horse I am alluding too.
 
Hope l'm wrong but l wouldn't be surprised if an American was the winning bidder as plenty of our top horses have gone there l think Half Moon Delphi was the last dressage horse to go across the pond
 
I'm genuinely angry that folk didn't just step aside for Carl and his team. It really saddens me folk only think of kudos and £ signs :(

I know it's unrealistic, but I really hoped folk would side with his current home.
 
I am quite taken aback by some of the comments on Carl Hester's page. People are quite happy to have a real pop at him personally (why didn't you sell one of your big lorries etc).
 
Seems like a lot of very odd reactions to me. If someone posted on here saying they could no longer afford to keep their horse they'd be advised to sell to someone with funds. And if a loaner found the horse they had on loan was up for sale they'd be advised not to let heart rule head in terms of price (as well as possibly the opposite!)

And if anyone with funds really wants to secure the future of a horse they are advised to buy it (or shoot it, we're good at advising that on here too!).

But really, if ridden career is over, getting the odd scratch on the nose from CH isn't going to make a huge amount of difference is it? Stallion will probably be happiest being helped to live as normal a life as possible and enjoy covering in hand if possible (I'm thinking it unlikely he would be lucky enough to be turned out with mares!). Who owns/if he stays on a comp yard... Well, shrug really.
 
I'm genuinely angry that folk didn't just step aside for Carl and his team. It really saddens me folk only think of kudos and £ signs :(

I know it's unrealistic, but I really hoped folk would side with his current home.

Why should people step aside? if Carl chose not to buy the horse with that price tag thats his choice.
 
I've recently heard the horse is actually unsound anyway.....

It's not a secret that the horse needs time off - vet report from CDI was that he needed rest & treatment. It could be minor, it could be career ending but we don't know. It's common knowledge though that he has had soundness issues at Carls. He was sold as seen at the auction so doubt he would pass a vetting - but I doubt many international 15 year old dressage horses would :)

I had thought there was 2 types potential buyers - set A would want him as breeding horse only, set B would be as a schoolmaster for their child to teach them the ropes but not necessarily to compete.

Anyone who pays 165K for a horse is going to look after it well!
 
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