Waterford Baucher

[sherwood']

has anyone used this bit? apparentyl its a wonder bit- would it be suitable fora four year old who has issues with head carriage in that he is too long and low- he needs to come up and in a bit more?

also is the neue schule better than normal metal one? thanks!

 

[Shrimp]

Im using one on trial at the moment as a loose ring waterford is just not quite strong enough for when we go cross country. I wouldnt say it was suitable for a horse that needs to come up more as it acts on the poll which therefore encourages the horse to lower its head.
Here is a description of it:

'The Filet Baucher is also known as the Hanging Cheek, it uses pressure on the poll as the cheek piece has an extra ring above the snaffle ring where the bridle cheek pieces are attached to, this poll pressure encourages the horse to lower the head and come on to the bit especially useful for horses that have a high head carriage. This cheek has proven one of the most popular cheeks with various mouthpieces. It is a fixed cheek bit, which may be useful for horses that are unsure of the bit, as it doesn’t move around too much in the mouth. It may prove a suitable alternative to a snaffle, for children riding ponies that need an extra bit of help to stop, or horses that are slightly too strong in a snaffle.

Waterford Mouthpiece

This bit has a chain type mouthpiece which has ‘ball shaped links’ linked together, the bit is floppy and mobile in everyway, it is completely movable in all directions. The Waterford mouthpiece has proved one of the most popular bits for bitting problems such as leaning, taking hold of the bit, setting the jaw ect, when the horse tries to lean or take hold of the bit, the waterford mouthpiece collapses, thus the horse has nothing rigid to take hold of. It encourages the horse to work of their quarters and carry themselves rather than using the bit as a ‘bike handle’ to lean on. This bit has several joints and distributes the pressure of the mouthpiece over both the tongue and bars. Also this bit may look severe, this is quite a mild bit and due to the mobility of the mouthpiece it generally suits any breed of horse and mouth confirmation. The Waterford mouth should be worn ¼” - ½” longer than any other mouthpiece as the mouthpiece needs to curl slightly around the lips to enable the bit to work to its full potential (except the Waterford Pelham – as the mouthpiece is worn the normal length). '

Hope that helps though i've had no idea about neue schule sorry.

 

[london30]

I've just advertised a 5 1/2" one of these on ebay starting at £7 if you're interested. I love Waterfords when used correctly.

 

[sherwood']

great thank you very much!

 

[sillygillyhorse]

If your horse is too low in his head carriage I would not think from the description of a baucher's action that it would be the right route to take?

Young horses take time to find their balance and strength to then enable them to carry more weight on their quarters. To help this it is extremely beneficial to ride plenty of transitions and use the half halt to help rebalance and transfer the weight.

 

[sherwood']

thanks! i have realsied that now that it isnt right for him. thanks!

 

[spike123]

Having had a youngster with the same sort of problem I used a cherry roller snaffle which worked wonders.Have you considered a bit like that?

 

[Sal_E]

No - a baucher uses poll pressure, which obviously will make your problem worse. You would be better with something really mild to give your horse the confidence to really take the bit & work in to the contact. Personally, I'd try a loose ring snaffle, peanut jointed, initially happy mouth.