Waterfords

[Gentle_Warrior]

What are your views, and what affects do these bits have ?

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info = he leans badly and does bucking fits and hard to get head up. currently in cc neue schule snaffle. gags do not come in his size, would loose ring waterford work ??

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[merlinsquest]

I tried one on merlin (two actually as the first was too small.... get half a size bigger) and it was no help at all.

He just leant harder and snatched his head down more :-( Another lady on our yard has been trying her french trotter in one and again not impressed.... says there is no feel for turning etc (she is now trying a wilson snaffle).

Three ring gags do come in a 6" (there is one hanging up in our tackroom) so is your horsey any bigger than that???

 

[christian]

i switched to using one on todgie about this time last year (a waterford fulmer for general, a waterford gag for SJing) and have never looked back. I suggested it to her owner because she was anighmare with leaning and he reluctantly bouht them for me to try in her.

They are a god send for me. They have worked brilliantly she is so much lighter and doesnt yank her head down half as much which is nice. Also the fulmer gives me more control then normal accross country because it is harder for Todgie to take control.

So i would say for a horse that leans a loose ring waterford would be a good idea. The fluidity stops the horse leaning see.

although obviously some horses respond to it better then others...... perhaps you could borrow one of someone and see how he goes?

 

[Tia]

I really like Waterfords. They are a super bit. I have a hanging cheek one and it is terrific for horses who tend to lean on the bit.

 

[Gentle_Warrior]

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I tried one on merlin (two actually as the first was too small.... get half a size bigger) and it was no help at all.

He just leant harder and snatched his head down more :-( Another lady on our yard has been trying her french trotter in one and again not impressed.... says there is no feel for turning etc (she is now trying a wilson snaffle).

Three ring gags do come in a 6" (there is one hanging up in our tackroom) so is your horsey any bigger than that???

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Unfortuntely he takes a 6 inch snaffle and gag do not come in 6 1/2 unless I want to pay £60 for it not to work !!!

 

[JessPickle]

I use a waterford gag for hacking

Then a waterford loose ring in the school, it seriously made pickel a changed horse! highly reccommend them and if you just want to try some different bits you could always try a bit bank

I like www.shop4bits.com

Borrow one and see what you think

 

[fairhill]

I'm another waterford fan. I ride my heavy horse in a loose ring for all her schooling as she leans as well, and it stops her from knackering my shoulders. It might not help too much with the bucking though as it doesn't help raise their heads, just stops them taking hold of the bit.
I use the same size waterford as snaffle - I would try a 6" one and see how you get on, that way you've only spent £10 trying it out.

 

[lucemoose]

I find that my horse really likes his waterford hanging cheek, but less so his loose ring. He doesnt like loose rings anyway, prefers ( I think- mind reading here!) the stability of an eggbutt cheek. I bought mine in the same bit size, didnt want him to fuss over the movement but they do wrap around his diddly mouth quite a bit. The hanging cheek keeps me alive XC! But the regular one just pisses him off SJ.

 

[josie_s]

It is possible to get 6 1/2" gags with out paying a small fortune. Shop around, or PM me

 

[Michelle73]

I LOVE THE WATERFORD. I started off with my fat hairy cob in an eggbut, he hated it because of the action on the roof of his mouth, then I tried a french link, not much better then I tried a waterford fulmer - he loved it. He was starting to feel his feet last summer and started bucking and I couldn't get his head up and a friend recommended a waterford gag - we haven't looked back since - I ride using the snaffle rain and keep the pelham rain like a washingline until I get into an open field!!!!! He's stopped leaning on me and carries himself beautifully. Respect to waterford - its changed our life!!! Oh yeah, no more bucking bronko fits!!!

The only thing I plan on doing now is upgrading to a warm metal so that it helps him to salivate a little more.

 

[JessPickle]

I dont have one size bigger may I add, and it fits fine!

 

[k9h]

Love em!!
Hunt in a waterford nelson gag. Tis the only bit to work. Have tried everything even Dexter racing, Double, Other gags.
I ride it in the wo reins & hardly ever need to pick up the gag rein now. I have streering, breaks. Is wonderful much more enjoyable for us.

 

[tinker512]

Used to ride a mare in a pelham which leant sooo much, so I put her in a waterford and was absolutly fantastic.Love them

 

[kayleigh_and_rocky]

Rocks is in a waterford hanging cheek now for jumping and hacking, and its fantastic, he still leans a little (but adding a grackle to try and stop him crossing his jaw) but huge improvement and actually have steering now (when i was in the gag i had no steering what so ever)

 

[Shilasdair]

Sorry, have to disagree.
Used to use Waterfords for the rather enthusiastic eventers...works fine the first couple of times, then we found the horse drops the bit and 'collects' behind it - not good.
No contact, no brakes - argh!
S