WB vs TB?

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Right. I have a Westphalian mare by a Trakehner stallion - so a very hot WB - and to be honest, think a TB would be a damn sight more sensible...

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Pros and cons of both breeds?

Experiences? Anecdotes? Stories of trials and tribulations ALL appreciated!
 
TBH, I don't think a TB would be much more sensible. But don't play it say and get a cob, cause they're more stubborn than any WB or TB is hot
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I don't know loads about either breed, just that TBs are so over bred as to be ridiculous, and WBs are fiery.
 
Not had a full TB (only a 7/8th ish) and I now have a KWPN mare. I love her to bits but she is the most sensitive, quirky horse I've ever had. I've found the TB types to have one setting and stick to it... if they're spooky, they're spooky... fast, they're fast etc. But Penny... you've no idea what you'll get each day. Some days pony club kicking to get her moving, next day you have to sit so so still as the slightest movement and she'll take it as an excuse to fanny about or shoot off the leg. Riding a friend's fresian the other day brought home how sensitive she is... it was like going from driving a nippy car with power steering to driving a 7.5 tonne wagon with no power steering!!

But she's a very very quick learner and when everything clicks the most amazing ride I've ever had. If I was getting another I'd look at WBs and TBs... they are both sharp breeds (in my experience) but in different ways.

Not really very helpful really and a bit of a waffle but its nearly my bedtime
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I did mean in general btw, not just in my instance!

I think there's the experiences that raced TBs go through which make them more worldly wise than their years e.g. in traffic

Also, it's the sensitivity of my horsey I love but not the wilfulness (which i think of as more WB than TB)

 
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I'd have a TB over a WB any day..
But every horse is individual, I dont think the 'average' Tb would be more 'sensible' than your WB..
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I don't think there's such a thing as an average TB or a sensible WB, is there!
 
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Have the best of both worlds! TBxWB gets my vote.

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Is there such a thing?
As a WB crossed with a TB would still be a WB - just with a higher % of blood.
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Personally I prefer WB's the TBs i've had bar one have been either nutters or always damaging themselves

Of course all horses are different, probably just had the bad pick of the bunch
 
Hense the quotations....

The stereotypical TB's are loopy.. but thats not true, Silly.. also not true... got one gear.. also wrong...

I didnt say W's were sensible.. to be fair, most warmbloods ive dealt with are dense lumbering offs who trip over there own feet.. and again there are exceptions.

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I've got the best of both worlds WBxTb, and in my opinion shes got most of the good bits of both, but definatly very quirky at the moment!!
 
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Having had both I would have to come down on the side of the TB. In my experience TB's are more intelligent, with faster paces and less stubborn than WB's.

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This is what I am coming to think...Nice to see someone who's had both has reached that conclusion & i'm not just mad!
 
Depends what you mean by "sensible". I have a pure Westphalian gelding who is very sharp and very spooky but also very very honest when it comes to SJ and very clever and intelligent when it comes to dressage.

My friend has a TB (well two of them) and the older is just as sharp but is very bold (and not spooky), is very clever when it comes to flatwork but is possibly not as "honest" or forgiving when it comes to SJ.

But then out of the two - mine is saner and safer to hunt

I think it will depend on the individual horse but for a sweeping generalisation you have a part-bred Trakenher mare, both of which (Trakenher and mare) are not known for being "sensible"
 
My mum has a WB(Trakaner)x TB (called Beau), he is exactly 50:50.
From past experience I have found that TB's when faced with danger will run away very fast, while WB's freeze solid and flat out refuse to move. The record is 15min, short of getting off and physically lifting him we were going no where, fortunatly it was in a field...=)
Beau is a slow WB 90% of the time till he decide life looks intresting at which point he becomes full TB (generally XC). He is a great horse, with the athleticism/paces of a WB and the 'go' of a TB (when he wakes up) so I would go for a cross if you ever have the choice.
I think you have to judge your own bravery, would you rather have to kick on? or ride with the handbrake half on most of the time?
 
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Depends what you mean by "sensible". I have a pure Westphalian gelding who is very sharp and very spooky but also very very honest when it comes to SJ and very clever and intelligent when it comes to dressage.

My friend has a TB (well two of them) and the older is just as sharp but is very bold (and not spooky), is very clever when it comes to flatwork but is possibly not as "honest" or forgiving when it comes to SJ.

But then out of the two - mine is saner and safer to hunt

I think it will depend on the individual horse but for a sweeping generalisation you have a part-bred Trakenher mare, both of which (Trakenher and mare) are not known for being "sensible"

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Sometimes she's super sensible, oh the irony, just not at all predictable!
You're exactly right though, my horse meets the requirements of both her breeding and her sex but the good aspects of both still outweigh the bad.
 
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Sometimes she's super sensible, oh the irony, just not at all predictable!
You're exactly right though, my horse meets the requirements of both her breeding and her sex but the good aspects of both still outweigh the bad.

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Maybe the not predictable is a WB thing as my horse can go past something 10 times then spook at it then ignore it for a few more times then suddenly throw a paddy at it.
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He also ignores and walks past scary things like rubbish trucks emptying wheelie bins but then will spook at a traffic cone at the side of the road
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Got a Danish WB and a 7/8 TB. The older one, the TB is kind and polite as anything but sharp. I trust him absolutely though, probably because I've had him so long. He's very high maintenance with his feet and prone to self harm. For this reason would not have another I don't think and certainly not a full TB although I do love them, they do seem to spend more time sidelined.

The WB is the more sensible one of the pair but can be a real 'Billy Big Pants' at times and I put that down to his age. I think when he grows up he will be a real fun horse, he's definitley the more affectionate of the two.
 
I've got a full TB ex-racer & he's the nicest, most mannerly horse but, although he's generally laid back & a bit lazy, if he gets upset he's a bit nutty. It's as if his brain can't cope & he doesn't know how to react so he just bounces on the spot & you can feel him getting very stressed & shakey. It's not nasty tho. I've learnt that if I ask for something & he doesn't understand I have to find a way to show him without pushing him & confusing him as that's when he gets upset.

I was riding the other day & one of the other liveries Dads was watching her ride her big WB. This man thinks my TB is mental even tho his daughters WB threw her off last year & seriously hurt her back & recently fell over backwards mid-rear bending her saddle almost in half. He turned to me as my boy jumped a bit into canter & said 'I bet you wouldn't ever buy another one of those'. I think he was a bit shocked when I replied 'I'd never have anything else'.

I don't have anything against WB's (in fact I know some bloody lovely ones) but I love my TB's!!
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My horse in my sig is WB x TB - he's got the bone from his british warmblood mum and the agility/speed off his father TB.
Mentality wise I would say he's just as spooky/silly even more than my other horse who is full TB.
I guess it all depends on their early life/ education/ what manners were instilled, as I think if my boy had been disciplined and given that good education he'd be much calmer- instead he can't really be tied to things he just pulls back, when his blood is up he's bolshy to handle, doesn't stand still when mounting, and very very arrogant! But I love him and wouldn't part with him!
Also generally speaking, if you get a TB who hasn't raced, they tend to be calmer horses....I had a 4yr old tb who had trained to be a flat racer but had injured his tendon and had sight problems, he was retired from racing but was one of the sweetest, kindest, and most calm tb's i've known- hardly spook even as a 4 yr old!

My next dream horse will be a ID xTB or 3/4 ID- I just love the Irish Draught stamp, leg in four corners, but the agility/speed/metabolism of a TB!
 
Yes, I think so, definitely. It's a bit like saying there is no such thing as an Anglo Arab because TB's originated from Arabians!

My WBxTB filly is 100% more sane and sweet than the full TB offspring I breed. She looks different, moves differently, had improved bone and has a more amenable temperament. Plus, with the TB parentage she can cover the ground at the speed of light! Something I know her WB sire would match. Yes, I think a WBxTB cross does exist!
 
I have had two TB mares and ridden others. I also had a daughter of one of my mares, she was TB x Hann.

With the TBs, if they did muck about they were far easier to sort out, Fleur had a really stubborn streak and far more of a temper - had to be sorted out very tactfully.

I have known quite a few TB x Hann apart from two, the rest were like my mare, very difficult to deal with.

Given a choice, I would prefer TBs as they can be hot, but less quirky that the warmbloods I have also encountered.
 
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