i am not bothered by vices too much as long as the horse does the job when its ridden.
You can put a grill up.
My current horse cribs without a collar however she is a saint to ride, never naughty and won her first BD so what she does in her own time is up to her!! I think most competition riders would agree.
If I wasn't buying it to sell on and it really was exactly right in every other way I would be tempted. However I had a horse that weaved a lot and it was quite upsetting to watch, especially as he used to do it in a field up and down the other pony's back...
Weaving is a difficult one to asses cos you dont know what can be the cause, sometimes a change of yard, routine or even feed can stop it.
My mare occasional weaves and moving her yards has virtualy stopped it, only at feed times now, and thats only if you dont feed her first.
Toys and stimulation in the stable can help aswell.
So really there is little point turning a horse down on that alone!
I have a fantastic mare who is perfect in every way except she weaves and until now this has not been a problem at all.
She has just been diagnosed with Navicular and the vet thinks she has damaged the supporting structures and said he would put money on her weaving being the cause- he said lower leg problems are very common with weavers.
I also found that to keep her at her best I had to have her massaged regularly to relieve the tension the weaving causes.
There are weavers and there are weavers.
Winston was noted as a weaver but its a poor show what he does, and only at meal times.
The Stallion i used to look after was awful! totally stressed the whole time
It would have to tick the other boxes with no exceptions. Personally dont have a problem with stable vices but am concious that as a livery client some yards will not take horses with stable vices which ultimately could cause me a problem.
As others have said if you are wanting to sell on a stable vice will make it harder to sell.
I too find weaving more distressing to see than cribing.
Guess it is all down to personal preferences and circumstances at the end of the day.
Well most horses tend to weave due to stress, so it depends on his life style at the moment.
If he has a lot going on around him, horses going out before him etc, then he may do it more so now.
You never know, it may stop, but some just keep doing it.
If he ticked all the boxes and he was the right price then go for it.
Yes I would buy, but agree it could depend on the weaver.
One horse I remember years ago, would even weave when turned out in a field of lush grass sometimes! It was very habitual and rhythmic. Shellee on the other hand rarely weaved, but when she was stressed she would weave like a lunatic!!!
Part of me would rather they show stress and vent it, than bottle it up and get the likes of gastric ulcers etc. If they show it, it means you can do something about the cause of the stress
I bought an 8 yr old Novice eventer knowing that it weaved because it ticked all the other boxes plus I wouldn't have been able to afford him if he hadn't weaved.
He's now 11, and has been the horse of a lifetime: we went from PN to our first Intermediate in one season.
However, I don't think I could have another one!
He doesn't weave all the time, but some things set him off and he can get himself in a complete frenzy. I manage it by as much turnout as I can get away with, and always making sure he has a friend with him. Luckily he's OK to go to competitions on his own though.
He needs careful feeding to keep condition, but we have that sorted now, and so far I haven't had any front leg problems. I do have him on quite thick, soft mats though, so he's not weaving on concrete as a precaution.
He can be very stressful to handle. Plaiting up a horse that is hopping from one foot to the other at 100mph, firing out projectile poo at the same time, or cleaning stud holes, is a challenge. You have to try to ignore it, as if you get angry, it makes it worse - difficult, I can tell you!!
He had to be on box rest once, and omigod, what a nightmare that was. We had weaving, lathering, running round and round the box 24/7. I was giving hima sedative, but it didn't work. After 3 days, I couldn't cope any more, so the vet came out, gave him massive dose of drugs and we got him into a tiny patch of grass in the field.
And the time I broke down on the M11 and had to wait on the hard shoulder to be rescued, he got in such a state and the lorry was literally rocking from side to side. The only way he would stop was if I stood with my arms around him!! Was so stressful.
I bought a stable mirror for him, which has helped, but not that much TBH.
I adore him, and someone would have to kill me to get their hands on him - he has a home for life - but I would think very seriously about having another weaver!!