weight ........ how much wouldyou allow a 15.1 thoughbred to carry

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for a friend who owns a 15.1 thoughbred who wants to put out on half loan
what weight limit would you say ??
 
10.5stone? Obviously tb's vary in substance however we have 2 small tb's on the yard both slighlty different neither would i think would carry more than 10.5stone comfortably especially if the rider is heavy in the seat or not very balanced
 
I have a very fine 15.2 TB and I weigh around 13 stone. Mare has never had any problems carrying me and has never had any back problems as a result of my weight. I have had her for nearly 2 years
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I think it all depends on how you ride..
If you are novicey you will feel heavier to a horse because you ride heavier.. yet if you are a bit more experienced you feel lighter because you can ride alot lighter. It depends on how you ride I suppose.
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I would feel absolutely huge on a 15.1tb, i wouldnt be getting on one full stop. And i'm not fat i'm tall and carry my weight very well.
Each to their own i suppose, my tb was 16.1 and i would say he was capable of carrying 12-13stone he also had more than 8" of bone so not very fine either.
 
Personally we wouldn't let anyone over 10 stone on one of our 15.1hh lightly boned TBs. Don't forget whatever weight you are, you've still got to add hat, clothes, boots, back protector (?), chaps (?) and then no doubt a GP saddle and bridle - comes to a fair bit more on top of that.

Most of the racing yards won't let riders weighing more than 9.7 on them if they are that size of horse.
 
QR: Oh for heaven's sake, anybody here would think a 15.1 TB is a delicate flower! I'm 5'9" and range in weight from 11 1/2- 13 stone and I have NEVER had horse ranging from 14.1 Arab upwards including my 15.3 TB struggle to carry me! OK, I'm not a beginner rider but even so, how many pure beginners are going to loan a TB anyways?

I'd say a 15.1 TB (barring any lameness issues, etc) could easily carry alot higher than 12 or 13 stone if the rider is decent.

I'm just fed up with everyone thinking 12 stone is "heavy". Yes, maybe for a little pony but not for a horse who is healthy and fit.

Ok, off soapbox now!
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I would say 11.5 stone if it is a good rider. If it was 16.1 id say upto 13 stone.

I hate it when people say 'oh for goodness sake, its a horse, a 15.1 featherlight TB can easily carry 13 stone' what???? Horses werent even designed to carry a rider!!! These people should get horses that fit them! If they are too scared to ride a horse that fits and need to squash something tiny and dainty then dont ride! Either that or get to the gym and lose some weight...

grrrrrrr. Sorry it pees me off. Yes a 13 stone person can ride a 15.1 horse but a partbred/native cross not a pure tb! men can ride shetlands but they are designed to be tough and hardy. TBs are bred for speed, not to carry weight. And before someone says NH horses (generally a lot bigger than 15.1) are designed to carry 12 stone round the grand national... No they are not!!!!! Most horses ware weighted up to 10.5/11 stone, the better horses might carry a bit more weight but look at the results and 12 stone is not a weight that the winner will carry...

William fox pit can make a horse look small but hes the most balanced lovely rider, us normal folks need to stick with something that is comfortable for us.

I know this is a contentious issue but if you have a lovely, curvaceous size 16 body (tust me id love to be a bit bigger, i look hideous and bony), you wouldnt squash it into size 8 clothes, so why should it be any different with your horse?
 
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I would say 11.5 stone if it is a good rider. If it was 16.1 id say upto 13 stone.

I hate it when people say 'oh for goodness sake, its a horse, a 15.1 featherlight TB can easily carry 13 stone' what???? Horses werent even designed to carry a rider!!! These people should get horses that fit them! If they are too scared to ride a horse that fits and need to squash something tiny and dainty then dont ride! Either that or get to the gym and lose some weight...

grrrrrrr. Sorry it pees me off. Yes a 13 stone person can ride a 15.1 horse but a partbred/native cross not a pure tb! men can ride shetlands but they are designed to be tough and hardy. TBs are bred for speed, not to carry weight. And before someone says NH horses (generally a lot bigger than 15.1) are designed to carry 12 stone round the grand national... No they are not!!!!! Most horses ware weighted up to 10.5/11 stone, the better horses might carry a bit more weight but look at the results and 12 stone is not a weight that the winner will carry...

William fox pit can make a horse look small but hes the most balanced lovely rider, us normal folks need to stick with something that is comfortable for us.

I know this is a contentious issue but if you have a lovely, curvaceous size 16 body (tust me id love to be a bit bigger, i look hideous and bony), you wouldnt squash it into size 8 clothes, so why should it be any different with your horse?

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I am enjoying your post. Horses weren't designed to carry people, except Shetlands which were designed to be tough and hardy and carry men?
And Tb's were bred to run fast, apparently, but without a jockey?
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QR, handycaps in racing at usually about 11st and they are at flat out gallop so i would say 13stone. it does depend on the riding really,
 
No more than about 11 stone with tack and gear etc.

I am sorry to say this but there seems to be a lot of "Big" girls on lightweight horses these days. When I was a kid (yes, a long, long time ago) everyone under the age of 18 was skinny as a whippet and rode anglo arabs and throughbreds.
Anyone weighing more than about 11 stone was considered heavy and rode a stockier horse or cob.
Perhaps horses can cope with heavier weights than we used to subject them too, but remember this is the first time this country has had an obesity problem. ( just read the statistics for your self, they are freely available) There is a high percentage of the population that is seriously overweight, by that I mean 2 -3 stone.
I also thought there was a direct correlation between bone size and maximum weight a horse or pony should carry. i.e a 16.2 hunter with 10 inches of bone can carry up to 17 stone all day out hunting.
To be fair measure your horses bone size first ,then look it up.

My heavyweight Gypsy cob has 10.5 inches of bone at 15.1hh but I still feel a bit mean letting hubby ride him at 16st.

Hate me if you must, - I ve probably opened a huge can of worms here!!!!
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3 stone maximum.
Any more and the horse might actually feel the rider exists.
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PMSL. Funniest post of the day.

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Don't laugh.
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Instead, join my campaign to encourage pygmy riders to buy 17hh warmbloods, so I can watch them get p1ssed off with right, left, and centre whilst sawing furiously to get their beast into an 'outline' flapping their little legs halfway down the saddle flaps for encouragement.
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Whether they can carry it or not, the picture must be hillarious 13stone on delicate 15h tb????????????????
I remember a post a while ago someone posted and slated this overweight woman from riding a horse in America, yes she probably was more than 13stone but she wasnt on a 15h flyweight tb
 
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Don't laugh.
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Instead, join my campaign to encourage pygmy riders to buy 17hh warmbloods, so I can watch them get p1ssed off with right, left, and centre whilst sawing furiously to get their beast into an 'outline' flapping their little legs halfway down the saddle flaps for encouragement.
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<font color="green"> I for one am taking your campaign very seriously. I weigh a lot less than 3 stone (most cucumbers do), I'd be perfect!
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Don't laugh.
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Instead, join my campaign to encourage pygmy riders to buy 17hh warmbloods, so I can watch them get p1ssed off with right, left, and centre whilst sawing furiously to get their beast into an 'outline' flapping their little legs halfway down the saddle flaps for encouragement.
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<font color="green"> I for one am taking your campaign very seriously. I weigh a lot less than 3 stone (most cucumbers do), I'd be perfect!
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Then you must immediately rush out and buy the biggest warmblood you can find.
Then, when you can't ride one side of it, and are in danger of falling off (when he abruptly rushes into a violent walk) you must say 'He is so talented, but has such big paces I can't sit to them' and hire a trainer to ride him instead.
You know it makes sense.
And anything is better than crushing poor delicate horses.
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Don't laugh.
mad.gif

Instead, join my campaign to encourage pygmy riders to buy 17hh warmbloods, so I can watch them get p1ssed off with right, left, and centre whilst sawing furiously to get their beast into an 'outline' flapping their little legs halfway down the saddle flaps for encouragement.
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<font color="green"> I for one am taking your campaign very seriously. I weigh a lot less than 3 stone (most cucumbers do), I'd be perfect!
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Then you must immediately rush out and buy the biggest warmblood you can find.
Then, when you can't ride one side of it, and are in danger of falling off (when he abruptly rushes into a violent walk) you must say 'He is so talented, but has such big paces I can't sit to them' and hire a trainer to ride him instead.
You know it makes sense.
And anything is better than crushing poor delicate horses.
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Ummm... sounds a bit complicated, all that trying to hang up stuff! Couldn't I just use some blue-tac? Or superglue?

Or should I maybe try Parelli?

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(PS - I'm glad you've gone over to the green side.
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This is me on my mare:

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She is 14.3 and I am 6 foot and DUN DUN DAAAAAH......11 1/2 stone. I also have a 17hh BTW and I love riding them both. She has never had a problem carrying me and this photo was taken before our first hunt where she carried my fat arse round all day and enjoyed every minute. (whoops it's mahoosive!)
 
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3 stone maximum.
Any more and the horse might actually feel the rider exists.
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PMSL. Funniest post of the day.

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Don't laugh.
mad.gif

Instead, join my campaign to encourage pygmy riders to buy 17hh warmbloods, so I can watch them get p1ssed off with right, left, and centre whilst sawing furiously to get their beast into an 'outline' flapping their little legs halfway down the saddle flaps for encouragement.
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LOL. Where do I sign?
 
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Whether they can carry it or not, the picture must be hillarious 13stone on delicate 15h tb????????????????
I remember a post a while ago someone posted and slated this overweight woman from riding a horse in America, yes she probably was more than 13stone but she wasnt on a 15h flyweight tb

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I weigh 12.5 stone. The horse in the picture is 15.1.
Is it really that hillarious?
 
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Whether they can carry it or not, the picture must be hillarious 13stone on delicate 15h tb????????????????
I remember a post a while ago someone posted and slated this overweight woman from riding a horse in America, yes she probably was more than 13stone but she wasnt on a 15h flyweight tb

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I weigh 12.5 stone. The horse in the picture is 15.1.
Is it really that hillarious?

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Absolutely not but neither does it look like a delicate 15h tb
 
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