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Morning, have a good friend who's in her early 60's and looking to buy a welsh d she has had welshes before , but as getting older just wondered what stallions to look at regarding temperment and not to fiery.
 
Aww they are the best breed! Full of character! I'm not that familiar with that many stallions, the Trevallion ones seem to be a nice sort, they have a good Facebook page.

Ours is out of A Derwen Desert Express Sire, the Derwen lines are fantastic to be fair!
 
jennygee said:
Morning, have a good friend who's in her early 60's and looking to buy a welsh d she has had welshes before , but as getting older just wondered what stallions to look at regarding temperment and not to fiery.
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How lovely!
If she’s wanting to buy a riding stallion, definitely suggest older, one that is already regularly doing whatever job, and already well-tried for laid back / unflappable, possibly a bit lazy - there certainly are W. stallions like this, but generally goldust for existing owners, and of course your friend would need suitable accommodation.
If wants the background breeding of a mare /gelding: look up the pedigree, WPCS site, and if it shows cross after cross of the same animals, linebred, then quite possibly those offspring will have ‘a bit more about them’. Could be a bit ‘high-couraged’ for what she now wants?
Some of the most beautiful linebred come from Derwen, who pride themselves on their foundation stock legacy, lovely temperaments, intelligent and sensitive.
However, individual animals are individual, so making any bloodline generalisations without reference to how they have been trained and kept, has limited value.
If she wants ‘steady’, make sure to due diligence the seller, thoroughly question current rider, and try out in as many comparable situations as possible. A vet check not a bad idea, either.
Good luck, sounds great!
 
Is she wanting to buy something already under saddle?

If so, I wouldn't worry too much about bloodlines and I'd judge the horse in front of me more.

I say this as someone with a lovely Welsh cob but I don't know much about his breeding apart from he is from Penstrumbly Stud.

When we saw him at the sales, he was much quieter and more sensible and settled at the auction than any of the other Welsh weanlings that were there.
 
Traks said:
Aww they are the best breed! Full of character! I'm not that familiar with that many stallions, the Trevallion ones seem to be a nice sort, they have a good Facebook page.

Ours is out of A Derwen Desert Express Sire, the Derwen lines are fantastic to be fair!
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I’m a bit cautious of Derwen lines, as they all come from NBM and they seem to to horrifyingly inbred. I did a lot of research when I had my Welsh D and I was looking for explanations for some of his issues, certainly found them. No horse that is bred from sires x daughters x full siblings, etc can be expected to be ok mentally, or have as good of a life expectancy.

It’s not just my one horse either, it seems to be endemic to most derwen lines (not all, though).
 
millitiger said:
Is she wanting to buy something already under saddle?

If so, I wouldn't worry too much about bloodlines and I'd judge the horse in front of me more.

I say this as someone with a lovely Welsh cob but I don't know much about his breeding apart from he is from Penstrumbly Stud.

When we saw him at the sales, he was much quieter and more sensible and settled at the auction than any of the other Welsh weanlings that were there.
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Definitely agree with this!
 
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