I have a 14 yr old sec d mare who's dressage is going from strength to strength - we're now competing at ele and tbh there's lots more in there. However, we are being seriously hampered as, despite my best efforts over the last couple of years, we STILL have no med trot. I have had advice from the top (you couldn't find anyone higher than this person in the dressage world) and my regular trainer is a GP rider herself yet the med trot is still terrible. She just runs along on the forehand. I've tried what feels like everything. So now need to think outside the box ! Same for collected canter too, though this is a more recent challenge for us. We can collect the trot and we vaguely have trot half steps,but collected canter seems alien to her. I think once we get these hocks underneath her there will be no stopping her. But getting them underneath is proving tricky. Any slightly more unusual tips that i not be already be aware of?