What are Scope, Blue Chip, Winter and Summer Venues?

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I will be moving to Scotland and I'm trying to understand the BSJA series. Can you give me a rundown of what these are, who is eligible and what you have to do to qualify?
 
We could be hear allllllllll day....... hee hee

scope is basically the summer festival...... the basic classes to quailfy for would be jumping 4 d/c at BN, disc, etc... inabling you to quailfy for the 2nd rounds...... then you get 3 chances at second rounds and getting placed (not sure what up to) quailfys you for scope. Then there are other classes .... like opens etc... you can quailfy for...... this quite complicated.

I know in juniors the classes like 128cm,138cm,148cm..... in the second round the first 3 quailfy for HOYS then the ones down to 7th quailfy scope.

Blue chips is the winter festival. ......... you can qualify just getting placed in a quailfing class....... and other ways.

winter venues are indoor on surface. Summer venues are outdoor on grass or surface.

sorry not the best explaination
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you are on the right lines but not exactly right especially concerning BN and Discovery for seniors which has completly changed last year whereas you only get one chance at second rounds and only a couple qualify for the final.

What we need to know is how old you are what size is your horse/pony and what winnings if any it has.

As for venues Scope/Festival is at Stafford County showground I still believe (stand to be corrected!)
Bluechip is at Solihull EC
HOYS is at NEC
There are additional pony national champs at RIHS (hickstead), POYS (towerlands)
and additional senior national champs at RIHS, Amateur/Veteran champs

there are also other smaller champs locally and regionally in addition to Young horse national classes/championships.

But yes hard to say what you are egliable for if we do not know your age/horse size/age/winnings
 
Definitely senior...
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I haven't bought the horse I'll be bringing to Scotland with me yet, but won't likely have any BSJA winnings as I'm looking in France initially. I will be starting from the beginning and depending on the horse will be jumping anything from 1.10m to 1.30m...

I'm sure that doesn't help you much, unfortunately, but thanks for your help!
 
remember if you are importing a horse from abroad although it may not have BSJA winnings it will be graded with winnings by the BSJA according to its age unless you can prove via contacting the governing body from the country of origin (eg in this case France) that the horse had won a certain or infact nothing before importation.

Katie
 
Does that mean that the horse's actual winnings according to its passport will be credited to it's BSJA record or that every horse of a certain age is given a certain level of winnings?

How do winnings affect eligibility? This probably sounds very stupid, but in Canada, there are very few divisions which use horse winnings as eligiblity criteria!
 
winnings will not normally be in the passport. Differnt countries grade in different ways so I believe it depends on the country. If a horse is a 4yo on importation it will be given £0 then it goes up in stages to 10yo if i think when made a Grade A. Obviously if its a 10yo ex dressage horse you don't want it graded with £2000 so only being egliable for opens or the larger qualifiers.

I know with i think it was one of Hannah Paul's horses although it had little to no recorded winnings because it had started in some 1m40s (not uncommon on the continent) it was regraded to have more winnings than had actually won due to the level at which it had competed.
 
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I know with i think it was one of Hannah Paul's horses although it had little to no recorded winnings because it had started in some 1m40s (not uncommon on the continent) it was regraded to have more winnings than had actually won due to the level at which it had competed.

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So, if I happen to buy a horse with some 1.40m experience, would I expect it to be considered a Grade A? If so, what does that mean in terms of my eligibility? I am looking for a horse to move up on, but don't want to buy one I absolutely have to move up on right away because of how it is graded...

Thank you so much for this. I really appreciate it!
 
not necessarily grade A if never placed but possiby high end grade C or B so putting you out of Foxhunters.

Remember though that even if you did buy a Grade A there are still plenty of classes. at the Amateur champs this year a grade A won the 90cm champ as that is graded on the rider not the horse. You could also do members cups which qualify for scope and then the various open classes which are from 90cm up but which don't necessarily qualify for anything!
 
Great and thanks! What is the limit for horse winnings to do Foxhunters (1.20 first round, right?)? This is very helpful to know before I buy the horse!
 
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