What are your thoughts?

[Mikas-mom]

really liking the look/sound of this horse, but she’s in Ireland so can’t go to view as it stands at the moment ?
what are your thoughts?

https://www.donedeal.co.uk/horses-for-sale/4-year-old-15-1hh-mare/25459121?campaign=3

would I be silly to consider buying her unseen (But vetted etc) ??

 

[ihatework]

Depends on the price and your attitude to risk.

This horse will likely be a lot greener than the video might suggest.

Also weak, possibly smaller than advertised.

So I’d ask yourself, are you prepared to loose the money if it’s not as expected and/or are you prepared to invest heavily on help if it proves to much for you?

 

[Meowy Catkin]

Will they send you a video where she walks and trots?

ETA - quite a bit of tail swishing at one point too.

I'd like to see the transitions between the paces too.

 

[Bellaboo18]

How much are they asking? I doubt she'll be cheap at the moment. Are you happy to lose that money?

She does looks sweet.

I'd also want to see walk, trot and transitions.

 

[Errin Paddywack]

She does look nice, I can see why you like her and price is low. If you can afford to take a punt on her and are prepared to be disappointed if she isn't as good as she looks then go for her. Make sure she is properly vetted though. Agree you need to see videos of walk and trot and transitions. I would want to see her coming straight towards the camera and directly away too.

 

[KittenInTheTree]

She's in Northern Ireland, not Ireland - we count as part of the UK, which might prove relevant to you for transport and banking related details if you decide to go ahead.

 

[Bellaboo18]

She does look nice, I can see why you like her and price is low. If you can afford to take a punt on her and are prepared to be disappointed if she isn't as good as she looks then go for her. Make sure she is properly vetted though.

She's POA

 

[Mikas-mom]

I’m just toying with the idea at the moment. She does look/sound very nice but of course I’m not going to rush into anything without seeing lots more videos, speaking with the dealer and of course if I did go ahead I would want a full 5 stage vetting.
i Don’t mind if she’s green, she would be with Me for a long time so happy to put work in.
I just wondered if anyone (that’s not me lol) could see any glaring bad points that I might have missed ?

 

[[131452]]

There is an awful lot of sawing at the mouth and tail swishing going on, can't see the rider sitting in canter, doing walk, trot or transitions. Based on that I kind of feel that the horse isn't as well schooled as they'd like to show it to be.
If it is POA then it's unlikely to cheap but I don't see evidence of the horse warranting a high price tag.
Just my observations though.

 

[ElizabethAngela]

I bought a horse off done deal once, a 6yo Connie that had done training shows and had videos of it generally being a nice pony. Had it vetted too. When it arrived it had 3 big sarcoids and an old wound on its chest which weren’t mentioned in the vetting. It was also sharp as shit, you couldn’t touch it’s face, putting a bridle on took an age, mounting was a performance where you took your life into your own hands as the horse sometimes exploded. All in all, took a good year for the pony to come right (and lots of money) I would do it again, but wish I had just gone and seen it as it doesn’t cost that much to go to Ireland (just my experience, not throwing any shade)

 

[Cortez]

Conformationwise, she is very long and weak in the back (but then, she is only four) and has a short croup, which I don't like, but she has quality and a decent length of rein. The level of training is pretty standard for an Irish horse (unfortunately), and probably means that all she does is batter around a course of fences with minimal steering and knows nothing of the finer points. It would entirely depend on what you want to do with the horse, and the price of course - I wouldn't be spending a lot of money on her. Normally I would urge people to take a quick hop across the pond and have a look, but that's not really a good idea right now.

 

[MagicMelon]

I go massively on attitude / temperament and she looks sweet enough. Id want to see video in walk and trot too, also just general handling (leading to/from field and being groomed) - as I bought a Welsh Cob unseen (based on a video of him being ridden), he was an absolute nightmare on the ground...

Not great conformation, but depends what you want her for. If you're not planning to jump massive etc. then dont see any issues. Ive never had horses with particularly good conformation but all have competed well etc. Temperment to me is everything, you can have the nicest made horse of the best breeding and then its got a rubbish attitude or grumpy temperament in which case it'll be a pain in the ass.

Depends on price too. I wouldnt pay more than £2,500 for it personally as obviously still green.

 

[AdorableAlice]

I'm not seeing anything particularly attractive about her. That is one strong dealer rider on board and the horse is simply doing as she is told regardless.

If you can bear to wait a little longer and after furlough ends you will find a nice young horse in the UK easily enough.

 

[Cortez]

I'm not seeing anything particularly attractive about her. That is one strong dealer rider on board and the horse is simply doing as she is told regardless.

If you can bear to wait a little longer and after furlough ends you will find a nice young horse in the UK easily enough.

It is in the UK: Northern Ireland, but would still require either a ferry or a plane ride.

 

[AmyMay]

She's POA

Days just over £1200 on the advert

 

[ihatework]

Days just over £1200 on the advert

It says 1234 and in the ad says call for price.
If it were 1.2k I’d say consider it. But it won’t be 1.2k

 

[AmyMay]

It says 1234 and in the ad says call for price.
If it were 1.2k I’d say consider it. But it won’t be 1.2k

Well, an advert to confuse then. As the ad says Price £1,234. That’s what I’d be expecting to pay for it if I was making an enquiry.

If that’s genuinely the price, we’ll worth a punt if you’re experienced enough.

 

[SusieT]

I think she is sweet, but that is a strong male rider on board, who knows what she looks like with a 'normal' rider on - I like how she carries herself - quite light and sporty and if you are someone who doesnt mind what you get and she passess a vetting I suspect you could do worse- but you will have no idea if she travels/hacks etc or actually spends the first half hour out and about throwing her toys out of the pram.

 

[splashgirl45]

i wasnt impressed with the video and would want to see walk and trot and the transitions between all paces, the rider looked quite forceful and i would think her breaking and schooling (if any was done) were very rushed and you would need to go back to the beginning with her....i would wait until you can try something when the pandemic calms down and the prices drop a bit....

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

Putting € or £ 1234 is standard for Donedeal Ireland - putting the advert on Donedeal it insists you put a price, so this is very normal practice if you do not want to disclose the price until a potential buyer contacts you. No intention to decieve at all.

 

[Michen]

I’ve bought both mine unseen from Ireland. Fully prepared to lose all the purchase price and then spend the purchase price again in schooling/pro help if needed.

I wouldn’t do it if I wasn’t ok with the above but it’s worked out well for me.

 

[Bellaboo18]

Days just over £1200 on the advert

1234 is code for POA, it also says call for price. She definitely won't be under £2000

 

[Wishfilly]

I agree with the others- she's got a strong male rider, probably a pro on board, so she is probably greener than she appears. I agree I'd like to see some proper walk/trot/flatwork on video, and I wouldn't love that she has been taken around jumping, probably quite a bit, as a 4yo. But she does seem sweet and she's not got a bad jump, so if she is cheap and you are happy to deal with her being quite green then it may be worth a go!

 

[maya2008]

I would say sweet temperament, bold, very little schooling, no idea whether it does anything other than jump with a rider helping it out, but it is only 4. I wouldn’t pay too much.

 

[jnb]

I bought unseen from Ireland (and not cheaply either!) off a video - unbroken coloured cob from a well respected cob dealer. I had many conversations with them and they trusted me with a baby irish cob who when he arrived I thought OMG he will never be big enough! But I bought unbroken and unspoiled, and here he is 3.5 years later at age 6/7 (I think he's 6 now and so does my very knowledgeable vet)
Edit: In your circumstances OP, with a broken in horse - no, I wouldn't buy unseen. They are invariably smaller than the ad says in my experience (my cob was 149 cm they said to make 155cm - he has done so easily) and as others have said the horse is being ridden by a very strong rider.

 

[Lady Jane]

The Irish lads are powerful skilled riders and a video can be deceiving. As others have said I would want to see flat work video in all 3 paces with transitions before I would even view. I wouldn't buy unseen from anyone. Nice horse

 

[9tails]

She's green as grass and the (very good) male rider is holding her together. The other rider at the end wasn't so polished. The horse can't yet see a stride so you would need to be an experienced rider to get a good education into her. Does anybody know what she's going for? I wouldn't be surprised if it's over £10k.

 

[ihatework]

She's green as grass and the (very good) male rider is holding her together. The other rider at the end wasn't so polished. The horse can't yet see a stride so you would need to be an experienced rider to get a good education into her. Does anybody know what she's going for? I wouldn't be surprised if it's over £10k.

I’d fall off my chair laughing if it were over 10k ? and would be most impressed if they got it, whilst face planting at the buyer!!

 

[9tails]

I’d fall off my chair laughing if it were over 10k ?

She's not worth that, but she's attractive and looks flashy. Prices currently are ridiculous too, so many people want to buy horses.

 

[irishdraft]

I can see why you like her op I think she looks nice but these irish lads are very good riders of green youngsters . So if I'd spoken to the dealer and the price was right I would go to view personally and try her .