What Bit?

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So having never really delved into the world of biting, as have previously always had horses that came happy, i am now confused as to what bit to try.
He came in a Cheltenham gag and a tight grackle, which i believe he was broken in. So have obviously with making him into a nice pc horse for me in mind i have been working on making the transition into a snaffle for flat work, i first tried a single jointed loose ring as thought the mouth piece would be familiar to him. In short he hated it and went like a yak. So i have tried a hanging cheek, and a funny but with a revolving lozenge, but didn't feel it gave clear enough signals to an unschooled baby(had never been in a school until two months ago, he is 5). So i currently have him in a full cheek french link, which whilst he goes pretty well in it, i have the feeling he's not totally happy, so as i have run out of my usual solutions, i am at a loss as had never had a fussy one, so does anybody have any suggestions?

Also am having problems with jumping/hacking bit. The Cheltenham will be saved for hunting as i don't like using it on a daily basis and to be fair he doesn't need it. So i have him in a french link bubble gag, which he also dislikes (spot a theme? oh and its on the second ring down), he tends to really back off the bit opening his mouth and evading even with a flash (only put this on as he came with the mouth opening but after a visit from the dentist, and having a wolf tooth removed i thought he was sorted on this front). Now usually for more brakes this is my usual bit, and if they don't get along with it i find ours have preferred a double, but don't want to use this on an unestablished baby. So again does anybody have any suggestions? i was maybe thinking a vulcanate pelham (with two reins to mainly ride on the snaffle , but am open to ideas

Look forward to hearing your ideals
 
I've had similar problems with my horse. He was in a Dutch gag with a tight flash noseband, I took the gag off and went with a French link snaffle, then a straight bar snaffle, and finally to a soft rubber bit, and a cavesson noseband! Took me months to find a solution to the headshaking, and overbending.
 
yayyyy a reply!

I have today tried a simple straight bar pelham, as a hacking/jumping bit and he seemed a lot happier in this than the gag. YAAAAYYYYYY :) only had one cross jaw moment when he got nervous near the cows which decided to charge at him, so all is good.

I think i may try him in a happy mouth straight bar, as he seemed to enjoy this far more than the flash which he backs off at any pressure.

I am happy tonight, hope he carries on liking this :)
 
Hmm mine didn't like a flash at all, thinking of trying French link but would like to know how you get on with straight bar as think this chap has a big tongue and may not be enjoying the 'nutcracker' of the single joint! Need a full cheek though it seems.
 
yayyyy a reply!

:D

I have today tried a simple straight bar pelham, as a hacking/jumping bit and he seemed a lot happier in this than the gag. YAAAAYYYYYY :) only had one cross jaw moment when he got nervous near the cows which decided to charge at him, so all is good.

Hurrah!!

I came to the conclusion that my horse didn't like any bit with a link in it, then that he didn't like anything hard... he goes fine in the flexible rubber snaffle.

I also think the noseband was pushing his lips and cheeks into his teeth which he was finding uncomfortable, so a loose cavesson solved that problem as well
 
I would be inclined to try a full cheek nathe.
They are a bit softer than a happy mouth.
My mare is very fussy with links. And goes like a dream in hers
 
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