What class - riding horse/hack/hunter

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Am competing at the weekend and was looking into doing some showing classes as well as jumping. Only thing is I don't know what class would best suit the horse I'm riding. He is a 16.3 Warmblood cross TB 5 year old.

Also do people think he would do well in the working hunter class?

Fingers crossed pictures work:o


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Is it a local level or county show? Riding horse or coloured class, he may be a bit light for a hunter, you rarely see coloured horses in a hunter class at a higher level so local you may be ok.

Some local shows do part bred ridden classes he could do that.
 
Yes to working hunter!

Ridden coloured. Ridden horse/Riding club horse, possible ridden hunter, but more ridden horse than hunter IMO.
 
Everything I want to say comes with a 'but'

My first thought was riding horse but coloured horses dont tend to do too well in that class. I think that may be the best bet though I would be interested to hear what others think!
I would say no to hack
Maybe lightweight hunter... his forelegs look maybe a bit too fine though

Working hunter would be quite good I think but a true working hunter will stand a bit further off the fence

Coloured class of course would be good!

A lot depends on the type of show to be honest
 
Pinkvboots said:
Is it a local level or county show? Riding horse or coloured class, he may be a bit light for a hunter, you rarely see coloured horses in a hunter class at a higher level so local you may be ok.

Some local shows do part bred ridden classes he could do that.
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Its local level but its a big end of hunt season show so many people use it as a prep for the county shows. There is the BSPA (?) Skewbald and Piebald classes should I do them or just the coloured class?

I'm quite excited, I love riding this horse and he has so much potential - owner is a dressage rider but can't compete at lower levels and doesn't jump so I get to do it all. :D
 
He's beautiful! Definitely coloured classes and probably riding club horse and sport horse if they have that type of class at the show you are going to. In anything to do with hunters be prepared to lose out to all the more traditional "hunter" type bays and chestnuts. I know others on this forum have had better experiences than me, but my coloured mare doesn't tend to do well in working hunter even though she's a great forward-going jumper and has good conformation.
 
He has matured quite a bit since those photos, jumping was taken sept last year. One with no rider was befor ehe was backed, but I agree I think he would be too fine for hunter. There was a sports horse class and I thought that would be perfect but can't seem to find it now :(
 
He's lovely, my first thought was he's a riding horse so definately the coloured classes. IMO he's a bit light for hunter. Have fun at the show and let us know how you get on.
 
I would go with Riding Horse (20) and one or both coloured classes then.

For those classes I would turn out as a riding horse so tweed jacket, coloured browband etc

If you do working hunter you need a plain browband for that

Depending on your style of noseband you may get away with the same one for all classes

Double bridle would be ideal or at least a pelham
 
The bspa classes would have a lot more serious showing people in as it is affliated to a society so I assume it would have some sort of qualifier attached to it. He is very nice though so maybe put him in and see how he places against the bigger boys. I personally would avoid the "type" classes as he doesn't really fall into any of them. However I think he would definitely be more suited to sports/competition horse
 
Thank you all for your comments. I will definitely let you know how we get on! Tempted to do two coloured classes as he is a very handsome boy. Pics don't do him justice. Only problem is I think he may have some minor splints or he did have so may not be much point in doing bspa classes as owner would want to go to next levels if qualified.
 
splints are really only a problem for local judges as they are easy to spot. Affiliated judges know more about conformation so aren't as bothered. Ive shown successfully at all levels with horses with splints, a friend of mine even qualified a hunter for HOYS with them! Just brush the hair the wrong way and spray with hair spray. Make sure you do it on both legs so it doesn't look like you are trying to hide something and they wont seem so obvious
 
OK I have finally decided on which classes.... So if some on could be so kind to tell me the exact correct attire for both me and the horse just to confirm what i have that would be great :)

Class 2 - Novice Working hunter
Class 20 - Novice Riding horse/Hack
Class 26 - BSPA Skewbald or Piebald exceeding 153cm

(Schedule link is above)

Thanks guys :)
 
You need the same for all classes, tweed jacket, shirt and tie, ideally a blue velvet hat, cream jods, long boots, spurs dummy ones will do or you can go without if you prefer, brown gloves and show cane.

Horse, plain tack, snaffle, pelham or double, you can use pretty much anything for the workers, flash, martingale etc are fine, but not for the other classes. Discrete numnah.
For classes 20 & 26 he needs a velvet browband.
Obviously immaculate, well trimmed, pulled tail and plaited mane.
 
be positive said:
You need the same for all classes, tweed jacket, shirt and tie, ideally a blue velvet hat, cream jods, long boots, spurs dummy ones will do or you can go without if you prefer, brown gloves and show cane.

Horse, plain tack, snaffle, pelham or double, you can use pretty much anything for the workers, flash, martingale etc are fine, but not for the other classes. Discrete numnah.
For classes 20 & 26 he needs a velvet browband.
Obviously immaculate, well trimmed, pulled tail and plaited mane.
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Thanks be positive. I havn't got a blue hat so would a black one do? I would guess if I wear black hat then black gloves to?

Luckily horse goes in plain tack anyway just simple snaffle and no martingale.
 
For you attire is the same for all classes:
Navy hat,
hair in a net & bun at the base of your neck
Tweed jacket
Shirt,
Tie,
Brown gloves
cream, beige or canary jods,
long black boots,
Spurs or dummy spurs

For horse:
Workers:
Plain browband
Any bit except a running gag or bitless however note that a judge will look at what you have in its mouth and may mark accordingly. a snaffle, pelham or double are best.
Noseband is caveson, grackle or flash.
you can use a martigale if need.
Saddle that you can jump in and plain brown leather girth.
Ensure your stirrup leathers are long enough for the judge to use (it may be a 6ft+ bloke or a 5ft tiny slip of a woman)
your horse an wear boots (plain black or brown) in the jumping phase but they must be removed for the flat.

Riding horse & coloured:
Ribbon browband with rosettes
Plain cavesson noseband
Snaffle, double or pelham (with double reins)
Saddle (preferably straight cut)
Plain leather girth

No boots!
 
BethanT said:
Thanks be positive. I havn't got a blue hat so would a black one do? I would guess if I wear black hat then black gloves to?

Luckily horse goes in plain tack anyway just simple snaffle and no martingale.
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The hat will do but brown gloves are still correct.
 
It should really be brown but makes no real difference if you use a black one, the judges have more to worry about than such minor details, if most of the turnout is correct a few things will be overlooked, you don't need to rush out and get another.
 
KVH said:
What is the criteria for both Riding Horse and Hack?
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A hack is a quality horse, usually tb or sometimes part arab, riding pony breeding, lightweight, very elegant in type, under 15.3, shown by a rider in navy jacket, not tweed, they do not gallop in their show just extend in a very mannerly way.
RH has no height limit, although they can be divided into small, under 15.2 and large, they are lighter than a hunter and more elegant, rider in tweed.

Both will wear velvet browbands, have quarter marks and be beautifully turned out, usually shown in a double bridle.
 
be positive said:
A hack is a quality horse, usually tb or sometimes part arab, riding pony breeding, lightweight, very elegant in type, under 15.3, shown by a rider in navy jacket, not tweed, they do not gallop in their show just extend in a very mannerly way.
RH has no height limit, although they can be divided into small, under 15.2 and large, they are lighter than a hunter and more elegant, rider in tweed.

Both will wear velvet browbands, have quarter marks and be beautifully turned out, usually shown in a double bridle.
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Thank you.
 
For those who asked for me to let you know how we got on today......

Didn't go to plan! Poor boy had an absolute meltdown so instead if going the ridden classes we just did one in hand- which he won!!! I didn't realise he had never competed on grass and it sent him into overdrive and just could not cope. After spending some time on two feet decided to pull out of all classes and try to get him to chill. Later thought would be good to pop in the BSPA in hand class just to get him thinking.

Oh well can only get better and means more outings on grass!! Will try to get some pictures from the photographer ��

Hope every one else's weekend has been better!
 
oldie48 said:
Hi, sorry things didn't go to plan but he's still young isn't he? Who was his stallion?
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He is by Goshka Ringo. Stud he came from was the Volatis stud dam is Persia VS. And yeah he will be 5 in July :) plenty of time yet.
 
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