What colour would you say my boy was?

[DabDab]

He's not LP he doesn't have any of the mottling that is typical.

He is definitely classic RN roan - as confirmed by the inverted leg V's and the lack of roaning on the head.

I actually think he is possibly buckskin roan tobiano rather than bay due to the tone on his face and at his stifle.

Yes true. Tbh the pictures weren't actually displaying for me so I was going off the description!

 

[Fred66]

What I meant skewbald or piebald isn’t correct terminology . It like how people in the uk calling buckskin dun . When real dun looks completely different they aren’t yellow and there is chestnut dun , black dun and bay dun . Looking at pictures again he is Bay roan tobiano.

Could I ask if you are uk based ? I ask as buckskin is not a common terminology in the uk whereas both piebald and skewbald are.
As I said earlier a piebald is a horse with large irregular shaped black and white patches only
A skewbald is a horse with large irregular shaped any colour but black and white patches. The any colour other colour can include more than one colour and therefore it might be that people would add granularity to the description of skewbald by saying bay skewbald or blue roan skewbald.
A roan whilst obviously having white flecks in its coat to create the roan effect would not have pure white patches elsewhere (other than leg or facial markings)

Edited: I wasn’t familiar with the term tobiano which having looked it up is an Americanism that has crept in and is becoming more common in the uk. Effectively it looks as though the words are semi interchangeable. Learn something new

 

[Lexi 123]

Could I ask if you are uk based ? I ask as buckskin is not a common terminology in the uk whereas both piebald and skewbald are.
As I said earlier a piebald is a horse with large irregular shaped black and white patches only
A skewbald is a horse with large irregular shaped any colour but black and white patches. The any colour other colour can include more than one colour and therefore it might be that people would add granularity to the description of skewbald by saying bay skewbald or blue roan skewbald.
A roan whilst obviously having white flecks in its coat to create the roan effect would not have pure white patches elsewhere (other than leg or facial markings)

Edited: I wasn’t familiar with the term tobiano which having looked it up is an Americanism that has crept in and is becoming more common in the uk. Effectively it looks as though the words are semi interchangeable. Learn something new

I am actually Irish just an interested in horse color genetics. To be honest I still call them the original name but technically horse color genetics has completely changed over the last decade. Technically the old school terminology is incorrect but there is nothing wrong with referring to it. I still refer to it in my everyday life because I just confused everyone and it simpler but the equine genetics nurds attack people who don’t use the right terminology. Facebook is awful people literally go on rants. How we know the difference in similar genes is because horse color genetics were studied to understand more about our own skin cancer. I don’t agree with everything color genetics because they class gray as a pigmented disease . It not just America that call horse color differently Australia and some Europe countries .

 

[ycbm]

What on earth is wrong with piebald and skewbald?
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[ester]

Lots of genes cause white patches, which is why we say tobiano for the tobiano gene these days it's not an americanism it's just accurate.

 

[ester]

What on earth is wrong with piebald and skewbald?
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Cos it's way more interesting than that . Skewbald is a pretty piss poor description of what colour a horse might be.

 

[Errin Paddywack]

Some pictures here of my sister's mare. She is out of a NF mare and supposedly by an appaloosa stallion, however he must have been coloured as well.
First one is her when she arrived in 2010, aged rising 3, then a few months later. Next is taken mid 2016 and the last was taken yesterday. No idea how you would describe her. She is coloured/skewbald, bay roan and also spotted.

 

[ester]

Now that one is definitely LP
And bay
and tobiano

 

[ycbm]

Cos it's way more interesting than that .

Only to people who care about what exact genes are causing the patches
.

 

[ester]

but 'any colour other than black and some white patches' isn't very helpful in imagining what said horse might look like.

 

[criso]

Only to people who care about what exact genes are causing the patches
.

I find it useful for describing the different types of patches.

My first pony was skewbald. I could see looking at her there was a definite way the patches were distributed. There were lots of other patchy ponies around, I liveried at a riding stable and they were unfashionable so cheap. Some had a similar distribution as mine to a greater or lesser extent. There were others whose patterns seemed to follow different rules. I could see this clearly but didn't have the terms to communicate it. It was also clear to me that the non white bits were different colours, palomino, dun/buckskin, chestnut, bay, roan etc.

So it would have been useful to be able say mine was a bay tobiano as that described exactly what colour she was.

We had more terms for different shades of bay.

I wonder if it was because they were looked down on, I remember the contempt with which a pony club Instructor described mine as 'coloured'.

 

[Cloball]

It become more useful with some of the stock type horse with white spotting genes such as overo that are lethal when homozygous. And frustrating when a blue eyed cremello pops out from two 'duns' and can't be registered with the breed.

 

[Lois Lame]

Oh I hadn’t thought of bay roan! I didn’t realise bay roan could be so grey! If you didn’t look at his giant brown head, you would think blue roan when you see the colour of his body

Red roan is the old term for bay roan. I still tend to call them red roans.

 

[Lois Lame]

He's not LP he doesn't have any of the mottling that is typical.

He is definitely classic RN roan - as confirmed by the inverted leg V's and the lack of roaning on the head.

I actually think he is possibly buckskin roan tobiano rather than bay due to the tone on his face and at his stifle.

Oh, yay, someone who also wondered that.