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Hi everyone! Wondered if you could take some time to help me out. I am opening a very small livery yard and just wondered what everyone pays so I can work out my prices, I don't want to be too high but at the same time I don't want to cut myself short. I know prices will vary from one area to another.

What do we pay for...
DIY - and what it includes (if anything)
Part Livery - and what it includes
Full Livery - and what it includes

Extra services such as...
Turning out / Bringing in
Mucking out
Day full livery
Hay per bale
Shavings / straw per bale
Vet / farrier visits

and anything I've forgotten....

I'd be dead grateful if you could all take a bit of time to do this for me.

Thanks everyone!
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Don't forget to work in your business rates/public liability ins/buildings ins/maintenence costs/mortgage/lease unless you own the property into the overall picture
 
I'm also in Essex.
DIY on the yard that I am on is £25 a week which includes stable, grazing in the summer and use of indoor school.
Full livery ranges greatly depending on the level of service provided and also the facilities available. I know of yards that charge £80 but they aren't very nice, I pay between £100 and £110 a week, that's for 5 days full livery and assisted at wknds.
I'm currently debating on whether to move. At the moment there are two yards that I'm thinking about. Both 7 days full livery, both with excellent service, one has 20x40 menage and horsewalker and is £460 a month, the other has fantastic facilites, indoor school, manege, horsewalker, lunge arena... but that is £650 a month.
 
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I'm also in Essex.
Full livery ranges greatly depending on the level of service provided and also the facilities available.

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Completly agree!

I think the facilities comes into all livery price brackets to some degree. Unfortunatly I'm very limited in that respect - stable, filed and 'riding area' although the quality of care will be top notch! I have the non-horsey owner telling me to price in excess of between £30 -£110 from DIY to full and refusing to lower this. In reality I have me who will be running it smacking head hard against brick wall because I know this isn't going to happen! Hence this post so I can get a few ideas to produce and put to money grabbing owner!

Keep em coming guys!
 
I am based in Essex and pay £25 per week for DIY this includes huge stable, turnout, fantastic hacking, a 20 x 40 school and a lunge/turn out arena. I pay £28 per month for unlimited hay. If I wanted 5 day part livery it would be £30 per week on top. Hope that helps.
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I am in Essex on a fairly big DIY Yard (with HJ) and we pay £130 a month.

This includes stable rent and 24/7 summer grazing/all day winter grazing (post and rail with electric fencing).
Yard has one 20 x 40 menage, one 30x60 jumping menage, a small lunging menage (all rubber surfaces which are harrowed twice a week) and an all weather track to ride on round the farm.
 
I'm in the New Forest and I pay £95 per week.

This includes turn out, bring in, feeding (and all feed, but not suppliments), haylage, straw, rug changing, use of an outdoor 20 x 60 and walker.

It also has direct access onto the Forest, no roadwork needed
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I am Bedfordshire/Buckingham borders

Horse number 1 on part livery:
£108 monthly to yard owner (stable rent)
£100 every 4 weeks to yard manager for 'part livery' (includes turn out & bring in, muck out - 5days a week)
Its an additonal £7 per day for part livery on weekends (but I don't have this service!)
I have to put my own feed/hay into stable
£1.30 per bale straw (to YO)
£22.50 per month for ad-lib haylege (to me, i arrange this!)


(Injured) Horse number 2 on grass livery at different yard but he is sort of companion to their horse whilst they get yard up&running
£10 per week (they check daily he still has 4 legs etc, make up and give him small feed...)
 
hi

with insurance and business rates , i pay the following
business rates are worked out due to which stables you have
wooden boxes 150 to 200 and brick are 200-250 a year per stable
any other building you have are priced on size and use and all grazing is also worked out
you get a 50% small business rate if you start in April and apply for it which is a god send as my yard
10 boxes, tack room feed room hay barn and 40x20 school and 12 acres grazing
is 7 thousand a year but you actually pay 49 p of every pound then with the small business rates applied another 50 percent off
but it still works out at around 2 thousand a year
then my insurance
is about a thousand a year for , public liability, ccc, and building insurance

and then 200 a year as I'm having it BHS approved

yards are expensive whether they are small of big you need insurances and rates as not worth the risk to be honest
when its all worked out you make a very very small wage its more of a lifestyle to be honest
good luck
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I am on full livery at a yard in west yorks, they have indoor outdoor school small cross country course very good split grazing so no more than 5 horses in field, on full livery they are checked daily in summer for £30 per week in winter this increases to £58 per week this includes mucking out daily, small feed twice a day also turning out and bringing in, it includes a rug change - any short notice changes are charged for e.g bringing in early or exercising
 
I pay £125 a month - pony lives out all year but I do have a stable but mainly use if for storing things in and grooming and feeding him in.

We have a school and good hacking. YO checks all living out ponies once a day.

At my old yard I paid £160 a month but we had an large indoor school and two outdoors schools. This yard also did full livery which was I think £460 for under 15h, £540 15-15.3 and I think about £600 for the bigger horses.
 
I pay £460 for part livery in Surrey. This is per month obviously. It includes all hay, feed and ad lib shavings. He is turned out, mucked out and brought in seven days a week. They check him so I don't have to go down every day. I pay no extras except for wormers. They arrange the farrier and sort it for free. They will be there for the vet at no extra charge. We have a lovely 60x20 sand school and amazing hacking and individual safe turnout. Our stables are huge and we each have our own in built storage area at the back. We park our lorry there for free.
 
Full livery in Warks £100 pw with round pen and large outdoor arena, some off road hacking.
Lovely big stable and washbox, indiv turnout etc
Was on assisted DIY at a different yard (feed, hay, bedding provided, turnout/bring in) with indoor and outdoor school (neither were great, and access limited by riding school) for £75pw
Yard atmosphere and managers attitude make a big difference - our mare is a different horse at the new yard.
 
I pay 390 a month includes feed, hay, 2 shavings, t.o and b.i mucking out...7 days a week! horse is well looked after....have to pay for worming and im fussy and buy my own feed in (yard makes all the feeds) god iv got lazy!
 
When we had DIYs we would charge £15 a week basic (stable and turnout nothing included) then if you wanted hay from us £3 a bale, we could get straw and shavings if needed too. You had a large storage container included if you had more than one horse or pony, or if just the one an area in the barn with a locked cupboard for belongings.

We then did turning out and bringing in for an extra £1 a day if you could only come up once a day.


This paid for insurance,electricity, mortgage, water bills, business rates, council tax etc.
Our DIY's didn't have to poo pick the fields as we did them.

If the clients went on hols they could get us to do their horses for an extra £10 a week as my groom and I shared the work and she had the extra cash as a bonus for helping out.
 
Im on a small diy yard in the Manchester area. I pay £30 a week for two stables. I get my own 1 acre field ( only have miniatures so this is plenty ) which i have split into several small paddocks ( bought own fencing ) I can use the fields whenever i want so they are out 24/7 in summer and stabled during the night in winter. I have built my own round pen and also been allowed to cut my doors down to size and also cut a whole in the adjoining walls so my minis can see each other!

I pay £4 a bale of shavings and £3.50 hay ( the £30 a week actually includes haylege but i dont use it ) and i have my own massive tackroom!!!

I pay £10 a month to keep my horsebox there.

If i need them doing at night for instance or whilst im away on holiday they will get done for me at no extra cost ( but i always give extra for the help )

I arrange my own vets/farrier visits but if i couldnt be there someone else would hold for no cost.


Its ideal for me because i wouldnt be able to have all this at a larger yard. Inky is a stallion too and this is no problem at all here. Its like having my own place really!!!
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I'm on DIY livery with an american barn stabling, costs £70 in summer months and £100 on winter months, that includes hay and straw, use of the school, jumps, hacking in some fields, plenty of turnout/grass and turnout options suited to your needs. Live in or out as much or as little as you want.
 
I pay £56 a month for DIY . Got 2 fields about 4 acres each large stable and water. YO does jack all just leaves us to it. No rules except turn off lights and taps.
 
DIY: £15 per week.

For this I get:
- 24/7 turnout
- plenty of acreage
- a stable
- as much hay as I want

Everything else (bedding, shoeing, worming) I organise and pay for. The yard is very small - only four horses and one donkey, which is lovely, BUT there is no school, hacking is rubbish and the facilities are mediocre at best. We also have a winter in/out rota: I turn them all out five mornings, another girl turns out two mornings and brings in two evenings, and the YO brings in five evenings.
 
For Full Livery in Central Scotland area I am paying £80 a week for:

All year round turnout (summer on excellent grazing, winter on winter turnout areas - turnout time 7.30am- 3.30pm)

Use of indoor and outdoor school all year round (with lighting included)

Use of Riding field and Cross Country field May-September

Barn style stabling

Feed twice a day, (yard provides feed)

Ad lib haylage and water

Muck out

Shavings

Rugs changed as required, hoofs picked twice a day and turn out and bring in.
 
There's a lovely yard in Staffordshire that does full livery for £85.00. Pity it's too far for me to travel. Ther full livery includes:

Stable
Grazing
Mucking out
Skips outs during day
2 extra large haylage nets per day
Rugs changed
Turn out
Bring In
Grooming (they do a good job)
2 bales of shavings per week inc
2 hard feeds per day
Use of horse walker
Use of outdoor schools.

Good luck with your new venture
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