What do we think of this one

It's wearing fluffy cheek pieces, wonder why.

It would put me off that it says very forward going and is 'enthusiastic'
I have one of those, same age, prob same amount of ability and I cant sell her for 2k so 5,800 sounds a lot!!
 
Yes - it is expensive - but is sold with rides - is that worth anything?

It also includes all tack. Now last time I bought a horse without tack - I must have spent £700 on tack - and then had to replace the saddle as he got fitter and had to spend £700 on a new saddle as he was difficult to fit (Derby House).

How much do you think you could fit out a horse for?
 
you have to watch these 'sold with rides' as some comps its the rider & horse that qualify so if you sell it on then your forfeit. i think im right in saying that but stand to be corrected!
 
Seems cheap to me.If I had the cash and the daughter Id have a look!
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The pony looks nice, has a nice record too. But i think it might be more than you need...and its expensive too. Sold with with second round rides really does not mean anything other than its consistant and although its nice to have i doubt your daughter would be read to go straight in and jump second rounds (these are real tough) im not sure about the others.

Also its winnings will soon put it out of BN (i think, i really need to find out what the limit is in junior) and if your daughter is just starting out id like more room to play with. Also, im not so keen on the ine: 'requires a confident rider used to enthusiastic ponies.' It sounds like it might be quite a handful.

Sorry to sound so negative.

On the plus side it has got alot of experience. It seems consistent and has done other things apart from SJ. If its close by it wouldn't hurt to go and have a look. I would suggest its more along the right lines as to what your daughter needs...although i havent seen her ride so it is difficult.

Any others in the pipe line? Are you going to see the Appy?
 
Yes - Abby is worried it might be too much - she would like a pony she can do the journey with - rather than one who has already done it. It's two hours away - but we might go and see it anyway - Abby needs to see a few to get an idea of what she would really like to ride.

We are not going to see the Appy - someone else has tried it and says it's just too small.

We have only been looking for a week and I am ready to top myself. I have never been a good shopper - like to decide what I want - and then go and get it!!!
 
Ignore all the sold with rides stuff as there are probably one 2 weeks of second rounds left and Blue chip has already happened and the cotswold qualifier is an unaffliated thing at Summerhouse.

Any horse you are interested in get them to email you its print out to see if it is any good. They've had that grey over 5 years and only won £70, and it was jumping a decent size fence back in 2004.
 
I onlt really like the look of the first one, the dun.

They dont say if the grey has done anything...and the picture doesnt give you much of a chance to see what it is like.

The next one, the bay is advertised as 'strong and forward going - not a novice ride' which would put me right off considering it is for a child.

The last looks OK, but is unproven at BSJA and seems quite expensive considering. Also there is something about the last picture that puts me off, it might just be a bad picture but it doesnt seem to be stretching over the jump at all.

What about this one on horse mart? HM721H044 I guess it is too far from you, but its the right type. Although it doesnt say exactly how much it has one.

I know its frustrating - but keep at it! horsequest is a good place to look too.
 
As a parent who has also recently been looking for 138 and 148 ponies you're right - it's a nightmare. We travelled the length of the (I mean the entire) country looking for a pony last summer and ended up buying one 300 miles away through word of mouth.

A 148 that has the scope to jump more than BN (£100 notional is the limit for whoever asked!) and can jump Newcomers double clears (ie 1.10m in jo) but is a quiet, rhythmic ride will be very expensive, I'm afraid. I know, I've looked!

I don't know how much experience your daughter has but the one thing you will not be able to make a tangible difference to is the scope of the pony you buy. What I'd do is sit down and work out what level you realistically aspire to compete at and ensure you get a pony with that amount of scope and the right technique (if its forelegs dangle you'll struggle to change that etc).

There are quiet, rhythmic ponies that jump but I can only think of a handful that make the BSJA grade without some degree of "rocket power!" and there's generally a queue a mile long for them. We had to compromise and bought a pony with all the scope in the world who is very sensitive and not altogether easy, if well meaning. A year down the line they're jumping 1.15m's but no matter how well they'd got on together if the pony hadn't had the scope to do that....

Good luck - I know how exhausting it is and it's sad that it is like that and that vendors can't be honest, often. Keep an eye on the Pony Club website and also horsequest - I find a much better quality pony on there than horsemart, generally and have sold our two outgrown ponies on horsequest within 36 hours! And be very wary of some pony dealers - there are some real cowboys out there..
 
I know - I have only been looking a week and I am completely depressed. You see the big problem is I have no idea what I am doing. I do not understand BSJA - don't understand the difference between notional and actual, dont understand the different levels. We are a very novice family - although the girls have been riding since they were four. We have only competed in local shows up to now. Abby has been winning or being placed in local show jumping and really wants to have a go at BSJA- and I really want to help her. I just wish I had been born into a horsie family so I could be more use.
 
I quite understand, Nuala. When your children's health and happiness are at stake it's such a responsibility.

Feel free to pm me if you have any BSJA or pony questions - I'm a BHS reg'd instructor with a BSJA'ing child around the age of your daughter.
 
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