What do you consider the 'correct' way of going?

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I just wondered what people's opinions were on what they consider to be ''a correct way of going''. (ESSAY!)

I currenlty have two trainers...one i have been taught by for years, she's great. takes things nice and slowly and has taught me that a horse should be ridden softly, using the seat as your main aid and when bringing on young horses, to encourage them to work long and low (opposed to up and in) in order for them to be able to stretch along their topline. With my four year old this is exactly what we have been doing and its eventually paying off..she's going brilliantly and now that we have the basics established we are asking her to start to hold herself and lift through the shoulders more. This instructor would much rather see horses working in a nice steady rhythm and not being pushed out of their own natural balance-she would prefer things to be on the slower side instead of rushed.
My other instructor prefers to see me ride with alot more pace 'push on' flick flick' etc. As much as the horse looks very nice i feel like if i wasn't holding it all together it would just fall apart! (because i feel like i'm pushing her out of her natural rhythm and balance) In my last lesson after going round the school at what i thought felt way too fast (bear in mind i have been taught the slower, relaxed long low way for much longer) i asked her if this is the trot she would expect to see in a test and she said yes! After watching some tests at the weekend it did seem that most people rode in this 'quick' way. It seemd to me that their main focus was to get their horses on the bit but because they were going too fast it was all going out the front end and the back end was just trailing behind (yet they were still very well placed).

Should it be choppy, quick and more forward going or more relaxed softer and slightly slower (by slow i don;t mean dead off the leg or like a donkey but just more floaty and relaxed) I guess how you do depends on what the judge prefers but i just wondered what peoples general opinions were? Both these instructors have ridden to a very high level and both judge...

This may be a post that makes no sense what so ever!! I think i should video parts of my lessons with each different instructor and see which you prefer!
 
I think you should stick with the first instructor to avoid confusing and rushing the horse!

I also think that 'softer' riding is better for all involved, and a rushed horse who is on the forehand isn't very nice to watch.
 
Is it perhaps a progressive issue? I am very much learning my way round the "correct" way of doing things with my youngster, and my trainer had me focussing on keeping natural rhythm, low and stretching much like your trainer. Now he's muscled up and got very good at this, she now likes to see him much bouncier and a little quicker, and much more "oomph" than we had before. He doesn't find this difficult and I don't feel like I'm holding him together - he feels free and up through the shoulder and seems to be pushing himself along from behind and I can slow it down, speed it up etc without his losing balance. But, when we tried this earlier on (which was what I had been doing in the month before I started with my instructor) it was all wrong. Thankfully she took me back to basics! Trying to run before I can walk is my usual flaw
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I took this to be a progression through training, but will be very interested to hear people's answers to your post as I may be very wrong.
 
I like to take is slow with youngsters then increase workload/expectations when they are ready for it which really depends on the horse and the rider. It might be worth having a chat with both instructors to find out what they are expecting you to be doing etc and work out a plan.
 
I think it is such a minefield, I have just brought on my very late starting 5 year old 18hh dutch gelding and my dressage trainer and I just went slowly through the very basics of training just to build him up and to make sure that all of his muscles could properly support what we were asking him to do, this involved loads of transistions, lots of pesoa work and when he became heavy on the forehand from working too long and low we changed to side reins for a bit anyway after a wide variety of work he now goes absolutley superbly and for a big horse is incredibly supple and very light in the hand, now in contrast I have a novice lady on livery here who has a very big 18.2 shire x and I was appalled when her instructor of choice came down and given the horse hadnt done any work for about 6 months got on him and hammered him in trot for 45 minutes with no attempt to ask him to work in anyway shape or form she may as well have been riding a plank of wood, and rode with her hands incredibly high ( i was later told she was showing rider ???) now according to her she was overjoyed with her lesson as she was able to walk trot and canter her horse,(INCIDENTLY SHE FELL OFF 2 WEEKS LATER BECAUSE THEHORSE WAS SO UNBALANCED HE TRIPPED AND SHE WENT OUT THE SIDE DOOR)!!! I am always of the opinion that getting a horse to go correctly should be a 2 way thingwhich means the rider should be going correctly also, and surely anything that is forced cannot be pleaseing to watch or be correct , therfor before I witter on I think if your horse is supple comfortable and has been trained in the correct way this should go along way to assuring yourself that your horse is going correctly. .
 
Sorry meant to say this is done on QR, not aimed at the last poster!!!:

I think you have fallen foul of fashion. It appears nowadays in all levels of dressage that the "forwards forwards forwards" mentality has taken a huge grip. Personally I don't like it, like your first instructor, it seems to me madness to keep sending these horses out of balance, how on earth is the animal supposed to carry itself and develop the correct muscle tone for more power in the future, if it is being pushed forward out of balance - hence why you see so many horses being "held" in front IMHO.

I too would stick with the first instructor, but have to be honest and say you may sacrifice some competitions and marks because of it. (sadly)
 
Thank you for your replies. Both instructors are taking it slowly in the sense that they are not pushing her ability but i think i'm just confused as to what speed of pace is considered more correct...fast or slow.
All your answers have been very beneficial though...i think a more relaxed slower horse is more pleasing to the eye and correct. I guess i need to aim for slower with lots of impulsion so i don;t attract the 'lazy' or 'lacking impulsion' comments-think i've just answered my own questoin!..although if my horse is happy and we're having fun who cares! (thats not the attitude!)
 
What theyre looking for in a test is a culmination of all your training. Unfortunately soft, relaxed and happy is considered sufficient for a test where you are supposed to show off. Thus a horse which goes with a bit more 'wow' scores more highly as thats what judges are ultimately looking for, even if the basics are probably lacking and the horse is probably a horrid heavy ride.

It's stupid, unfair and I hate it but thats the fact. The 1st trainer is benefitting your horse long-term, the 2nd trainer is preparing you for tests. Take your pick!!
 
Thats the problem...i can't decide!
I suppose i need to combine the two-although do you think this will confuse the horse? ( i guess a well trained horse should be able to work either way) The second (faster!) instructor has ridden Grand Prix so i guess she should know what she's talking about...ahh i don't know. I might look on the web and look at videos of good dressage tests and compare the different ways of going.
 
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Thats the problem...i can't decide!
I suppose i need to combine the two-although do you think this will confuse the horse? ( i guess a well trained horse should be able to work either way) The second (faster!) instructor has ridden Grand Prix so i guess she should know what she's talking about...ahh i don't know. I might look on the web and look at videos of good dressage tests and compare the different ways of going.

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I'm in exactly the same position as you.

My trainer has competed top level dressage with much sucess but is 'classical' and knows what I like doing with my horses so we work for te long-term.
However, for the here and now, as I cant take time out from competition before we're truly ready to compete, I have to ride her very differently on the day of the test/in the test to how I would at home.

I've only just realised this myself!!
 
I prefer the slower more relaxed way of going, as does Flash
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If you push him forward too much it all goes to pieces, with our flatwork and jumping. Both my trainers are fantastic for him, they accept he's a little different and cheeky and work with it. It all depends what judge you come up against on the day unfortunately
 
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