What do you think of this horse?

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I already have my dream horse, but he is getting on a bit. My husband has a project horse that he is about to sell. So, like all true horsepeople, we are itching to get a new horse. We have found a horse that we both like very much. Trouble is that he is in another country about 1300 kms away. But we decided to go and see him anyway and consider the trip as a holiday. I would like your opinions on the horse before we set off.
He is a 16.3 h, 4 year old WB X stallion who hasn't done much. Apart from being gorgeous, he has that something that appeals to both of us. And we also liked the riding that we saw on the videos. The riders are all very light-handed and quiet. So we think that he has had the right beginning to his career. He has jumping bloodlines but we also plan to do some dressage with him. Here he is:

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Sorry, but the these photos are all that I have. Thank you in advance for your comments.
 
He's nice, but you can get just as good here in the UK.
It has just occured to me as I'm writing this that you may not be in the UK? Am on my phone so can't see.
Just seems an awful long way to go for a horse.
But then he is lovely :)
I take it him being a stallion is what you want?
 
No, we are not in the UK and it is hard to find a very nice horse for the price they are asking here.
We are not specifically after a stallion but my own horse is a stallion and is the nicest, kindest and best horse I have ever met, so I have a soft spot for stallions. And also we do not customarily geld stallions here in this country unless they really are impossible to handle or to ride. So, if we like him, the plan is to give him a chance as a stallion and to geld him if it doesn't work.
 
He is an attractive horse but unless he is an absolute bargain, it would probably be wiser to find something in the UK.

As a stallion he is going to be difficult to find a yard willing to take him, and even if you have him gelded he will be unused to socialising with others in a herd environment. Are you used to handling entires? They are a different kettle of fish to most geldings.

He is a nice sort but I am not sure he is of breeding quality, there are already so many stallions in this country without the need for more.

He seems naturally quite flat and doesn't appear to work his quarters very well in the photos so he may find to level dressage a little difficult. He also looks like he could become heavy in the hand very easily.

I personally wouldn't pay morse than £3000 for him all things considered.

Having said that I do like him, he looks gentle and willing.
 
team barney said:
He is an attractive horse but unless he is an absolute bargain, it would probably be wiser to find something in the UK.

As a stallion he is going to be difficult to find a yard willing to take him, and even if you have him gelded he will be unused to socialising with others in a herd environment. Are you used to handling entires? They are a different kettle of fish to most geldings.

He is a nice sort but I am not sure he is of breeding quality, there are already so many stallions in this country without the need for more.

He seems naturally quite flat and doesn't appear to work his quarters very well in the photos so he may find to level dressage a little difficult. He also looks like he could become heavy in the hand very easily.

I personally wouldn't pay morse than £3000 for him all things considered.

Having said that I do like him, he looks gentle and willing.
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Thank you for your reply. As I have said we are not in the UK and stallions are far more widely accepted here. Actually, there are exactly 21 stallions in the riding club that my horse is at now (there are no 'yards' here) and they all live and work in a very busy environment (150+ horses in total). It is not unusual to have 4-5 stallions working at the same time in the indoor school and so far none of them caused any problems apart from sometimes calling out loud while walking on a loose rein (I find that the mares are more prone to cause havoc!). Horses are also not turned out in a herd and for long periods of time (nearly all of them being very valuable competition horses). We are quite experienced in handling stallions but I know that it is entirely dependent on the individual horse's temperament and nature. Gelding him is always a possibility. So we will wait and see.
 
1ST1 said:
Thank you for your reply. As I have said we are not in the UK and stallions are far more widely accepted here. Actually, there are exactly 21 stallions in the riding club that my horse is at now (there are no 'yards' here) and they all live and work in a very busy environment (150+ horses in total). It is not unusual to have 4-5 stallions working at the same time in the indoor school and so far none of them caused any problems apart from sometimes calling out loud while walking on a loose rein (I find that the mares are more prone to cause havoc!). Horses are also not turned out in a herd and for long periods of time (nearly all of them being very valuable competition horses). We are quite experienced in handling stallions but I know that it is entirely dependent on the individual horse's temperament and nature. Gelding him is always a possibility. So we will wait and see.
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Just out of curiosity what country do you live in? Just being nosey. My horse came from Holland and from what I gather was gelded late but thats how things are done in Holland.
 
team barney said:
He is an attractive horse but unless he is an absolute bargain, it would probably be wiser to find something in the UK.

As a stallion he is going to be difficult to find a yard willing to take him, and even if you have him gelded he will be unused to socialising with others in a herd environment. Are you used to handling entires? They are a different kettle of fish to most geldings.
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OP has already said they are not in UK and already owns a stallion :)

I think he is lovely and like others have said if he ticks all the boxes and you can have a holiday ;) then go for it. You might regret at least not going to look. Good luck.
 
I think that seeing you are experienced in this field that you need to go and see him and make your mind up! Personally for me he's a little light of bone for his type. I am a TB person through and through so I do like light boned horses! I would also go as far as suggesting that he's a little straight through his hind leg. Being a 4yr old colt, he appears to have a fabulous trainable temperament. A little strange saying that from a photo but he doesn't appear tense, under pressure etc. He is a beautiful colour!! What type etc is he? Also where in the world are you?!! If he's as trainable etc throughout his working life then I see no reason why cutting him should come into play even if you do not want to breed from him. He is the same colour as my first Barbie horse many many years ago!!
 
bexwarren24 said:
Just out of curiosity what country do you live in? Just being nosey. My horse came from Holland and from what I gather was gelded late but thats how things are done in Holland.
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We live on the fringes of Europe, in Istanbul, Turkey. I have been lurking here for quite some time and know about your views and traditions. But horsemanship is very different here and people usually don't think twice about owning a stallion. They are not treated any differently. And my boy taught me in no uncertain terms that good stallions are invaluable as they tend to be brave, intelligent, honest and generous.
 
Well like you say at 4 he's still a baby and if he's only been lightly schooled then he'll have along way to go, he certainly not going to have the same way of going as some 4 yr or 5 yr olds, there all different, so anything you see now in these photos can't really be judged, only thing you can do is see him in the flesh and watch movement like a hawk, he will look like a different horse altogether in a few years, he seems nice from the photos, so if he's your cup of tea by all means go see him.

Good Luck
 
I think he looks very very nice and if you are going to make the trip into a holiday then go for it and have a look.

From the pictures he does look very relaxed and there is just 'something' about him.

I also understand what you are saying about the stallions, I have a friend who lives in Spain it is perfectly normal there for the equestrian places - even local riding schools to have and use stallions, they are ridden through the town regularly in groups of 5-10 with no problem at all.

I think in the UK we are a bit phobic about stallions - they don't deserve a fraction of the reputation they have.
 
Looks lovely, our new boy was imported from Denmark in 2008 and gelded very late, possibly around the time of import. He is out with all mares and an absolute gentleman. I'd go and see him if he is what you want.
 
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