What happens to these horses???

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While I'm out and about - there seems to quite a few fields full of not that great mares and foals.... loads of them!!!

I saw one on the outskirts of Sheffield yesterday, the field was 2 acres max, full of ragwork and had at least 8 pretty ugly mares and foals in there - what happens to them???
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Can you use that word on here?!
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Quite right though. If owners do not even care enough to remove ragwort etc then I can't see them paying a lot of attention to teach them well and find decent homes
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we all start to learn somewhere, imagine all riding schools only being able to have top class eventers to teach kids to ride with....none of us would ever get started at all, would we?.

Not everyone wants or can afford a stunning top quality top class horse either......and beauty is in the eye of the beholder..what is considered the tops now may well be bottom of the pile in a few short years. My daughters first pony was the ugliest thing on 4 legs.my daughter loved that pony.. even when she moved on from ponies, this pony stayed with us til it died..and my daughter could have had her pick..she chose the very ugly one.

I do agree though, only quality mares should be bred from...nothing with bad conformation or obvious defects that could be hereditary..and it gets me mad, people have nothing better to do with a mare so instead of letting her go, put her in foal....just because she is female doesn't mean she automatically should be bred from. People buy horses.....heard it loads of times.well, if it doesn't work out, at least you can always breed from a mare...better a mare than a useless gelding....very sad really..and, it costs the same to feed a good one as a bad one..
 
They wont all end up with rubbish lives. Some horses with rich owners have worse lives than some 'rubbish' horses with owners who don't have tonnes of money and thats why they got the cheap ugly horse.
Some people just want something to love.

I really hate the snobbery that comes out on here sometimes, that only 'pretty' horses with top breeding can have good lives.

Agree that mares with conformational defects or major personality issues shouldn't be bred from, but then again i think that with humans and it doesn't happen. And deformed and ugly kids get loved the same as 'pretty' kids by those who matter.
 
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Not sure but i'm thinking the meat man??

The point is they are not breeding because they want a foal from a much loved mare, who might not what other people would breed from - they are getting every mare they can in foal and not even looking after them properly.
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Alot of these mares and foals belong to our "traveling community"they are a kind of currency,you only have to go to some of the horse markets to see them in pens in discusting condition,the RSPCA are allways at reading market but they never seem to do anything,unfortunatly not all horses and ponios have kind, considerate owners like ourselves,i want to win the lottery and rescue all of them,i live in hope
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<font color="blue">probably end up in shitty homes, have rubbish educations and end up dead from misuse by the age of ten </font>

Good breeding and a high price tag is no guarantee of a safe future. We have the nicest looking coloured in for re-schooling/sale and it'll be a long job to get him right
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A quality little horse and was started well, bought for nearer 10K than 5k - work it out! - and ruined
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A nicer person you couldn't wish to meet but totally lost confidence in riders. I want to punch his owner/ruiner VERY hard.

Whoever buys him will eventually have a super horse eventually but it won't be this year. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
 
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Alot of these mares and foals belong to our "traveling community"they are a kind of currency,you only have to go to some of the horse markets to see them in pens in discusting condition,the RSPCA are allways at reading market but they never seem to do anything,unfortunatly not all horses and ponios have kind, considerate owners like ourselves,i want to win the lottery and rescue all of them,i live in hope
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In fairness, there are travellers and travellers. I've known some who take better care of their horses than their wives and boy oh boy what horses.

As to horses turned out on ragwort, saw it myself yesterday near Swindon, absolutely disgusting, poor, poor horses. Could be just ignorance, I guess, there is soooo much of the stuff, everywhere, it's like an alien invasion.

What a crappy state for a wonderful country to be in. This is what happens when you let townies run the show.
 
We have fields of coloureds round our way - they are meat ponies I'm afraid. Sad really as there are a few nice ones in there that would look pretty good tidied up.
 
and with horses like that we end up with cases like Amersham.... Sounds horrible I know but maybe they're just better off on a plate on the continent... save us the pain of seeing all those useless badly bred horses being plastered all over the newspapers in their emaciated forms....
 
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While I'm out and about - there seems to quite a few fields full of not that great mares and foals.... loads of them!!!

I saw one on the outskirts of Sheffield yesterday, the field was 2 acres max, full of ragwork and had at least 8 pretty ugly mares and foals in there - what happens to them???
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sometimes they are sold at fairs/markets to people like me...who worm them, halter them, socialise them then sell them on to hopefully nice homes,

sometimes they end up as market fodder, going from sale to sale, and having a miserable life,

and as Weezy said, sometimes to Potters/Turners etc.
 
Whats new? hasn't it always been the case? if not here certainly in Ireland, perhaps it just more noticeable in your area?

Not only that but many of the 'ugly' stock bred from any old mare might actually sell for more money then some of these 'pretty well bred' horses...sounds daft I know but yes some really do.

Its money to them, there livelihood, buying/selling and breeding put meals on their tables and feeds their children, they don't go searching high and low for a good stallion, they cover what they can as soon s they can and leave the rest to nature.

Many of these foals end up in good homes, bought from markets as youngsters and produced to sell, many competing at local RC level and hunter trials and in the hunting field...in fact they dont have to have a perfect confirmation, not only that but they make great riding school horses/trekking horses etc...it wouldn't suprise me if one of these ugly types have beaten some of us at our own game...and good on them too.

I don't agree with the vast numbers they breed, the sheer ignorance, lack of care and sometimes the treatment of these horse and their off spring etc but I wouldn't knock an ugly mare and foal, not everyone can afford well bred, expensive horses .... in which case not everyone would have the pleasure of owning a horse, lots of people can afford to keep a horse, not everyone can afford to pay top dollar for one.
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However do see the point you making and yes I do think it is a concern overall.
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