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Patches

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Not my horse, so please don't be cruel. I'm just curious as to what causes muscle development such as this in a horse.
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Horse passed a full five stage vetting. His whole back end looks very over muscled, not just on top where this "lump" is. The lump is actually two pockets of very well defined muscle on both sides of his quarters.


And oh look....there's the buck rake on the silage!
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is it a gelding? rig? or stallion? these muscles are what he uses to pump!!!!!

been busy .. i think?

(unless horribly deformed????)
 
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Looks like an extreme "jumpers bump" muscles that become very defined through jumping.

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Hmmm....well without meaning to sound rude to the horse in question, he's hardly a jumping a superstar as he's a heavyweight cob, 13.3hh.
 
It's hard. His back end and the way he walks is reminiscent of a Belgian Blue Bull on Steroids. I keep making that joke with his owner.

Not at all cresty, infact his neck is quite weak in comparison. He's 7/8 years old. It doesn't look like fat, he looks extremely muscled in places I've never seen a horse muscled before.
 
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Looks like an extreme "jumpers bump" muscles that become very defined through jumping.

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Hmmm....well without meaning to sound rude to the horse in question, he's hardly a jumping a superstar as he's a heavyweight cob, 13.3hh.

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PMSL point taken, didn't say it was just that the muscle formation was similar. Same muscles used for cobs as jumping superstars though!
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Oh yeah, I get that. He just doesn't look the sort to have been over jumped.

Vet didn't comment on it, not that I know of and whilst he has a "butch" movement in walk, his trot and canter are wonderful. I've yet to see him worked under saddle though as his tack hasn't arrived.

He's an absolute sweetheart though. Quite possibly the sweetest pony I've ever had the pleasure to meet.
 
could be fat deposits, but just checks his bits!!!! pretty much same muscles mounting as jumping!! but got to say doesn't look a jumper!
p.s. doesn't look anything to be to concerned about either way... whatever..??????
Katherine Tate styly.... will go with correct work...
 
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Looks similar to loads of young quarter horses when they are first coming into work.

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Perhaps that's all it is then. They wondered if he'd been driven and whether it related to driving, but I always thought those who drive would be more developed in front?

To reply to others.....as far as I'm aware he's a gelding. He doesn't seem interested in my mares.
 
probably then undeveloped muscles initatially worked tooo hard now turned to fat!!! don't worry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
absolutely nothing to be worried about!!! either way.... will go!

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I have worked with top shop jumping stallions & non looked like that!???
Haven't a clue really as to what it is unless the fasia under the skin has scarred through some injury only thing I can think of with what you say as to how he walks???
Im no expert though!
 
but what you have got to remember is that these stallions have been worked... and worked correctly....!!!

well I hope so!!

therefore you wouldn't see this,, either as fat nor muscle....

from pics have seen .. he is not in hard work nor carrying heaps of fat...

so got to be one or other.. either way no worries..
 
The gypsy horses near us that are used for driving have very overdeveloped muscles like this on their quarters - if he has driven that could be it. He may need re-educating in his movement or it may just gradually even out as he is worked properly
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not to be a drama queen or nothing, but it could be worth getting a blood test done unless he has had one in the vetting as my old pony had cancer and his muscles were all deformed...
but its probalbly just part of his personality!
who hasn't got a few strange lumps? lol
 
My horse has something similar (but not quite to that extreme!)...he has muscle degeneration. Our vet said she had never seen it before. It's filled out alot more now. When he sweats, salt comes up along the line especially on the near side were it is most promonant (sp?)


Will put some pics up if you want if i can get photobucket to agree. lol
 
A pony at our Pony Club had exactly this peculiar bump on his croup. Looks extremely weird, but never bothered him and he did jump! We were told he had been ridden incorrectly and that's what caused it. I doubted that myself, but maybe it was true...........
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Our stallion has it to a much lesser degree, it's hard muscle!
We wondered if in his case it was because he had a broken pelvis and this was some muscles that didn't work as they should..
this looks very over developed doesn't it?
 
It does look over developed to me. Instinct tells you that the area behind the lump, towards his tail, is under developed....but if you saw him in the flesh and the general definition of muscle in his back end and tops of his hind legs, I think most people would say he looks over muscled.

I have personally never ever seen a horse look like this, but I accept I'm a bit wet behind the ears still when it comes to horses. I would assume the vet who vetted him wasn't concerned as it didn't get a mention. I have just been looking at the horse for the last 10 days in genuine fascination and with a sense of curiosity as to what on Earth would make him develop in this way.

As I say, he is sound and he did pass a full five stage vetting.
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Is it just me or can anyone else is a distinct 'V' shape about 5 inches wide pointing down and back towards the hock? Almost like an indentation of some sort of driving harness? Perhaps something like a saddlechariot or type of gypsy or old traditional harness? Whatever it was it seems to have been worn a lot and either pulling a lot of weight or been very heavy to start with. I definately think it is an indentation of some form of leatherwork! Or did you use a brush to highlight the area for the photo? Odd!!
 
That would be interesting. I should stress, this horse has passed a full five stage vetting with flying colours.
 
No-one had brushed him for the picture.

The area in question does look like a large V when viewed "in the flesh" but is raised, not an indentation. Although, saying that, did you mean the area behind the lump has an indentation?

I'm easily confused. Again, I'd like to stress, the horse is a darling. He really is, and it doesn't bother him in the slightest.

The reason I wondered if he'd been driven is because he only has front shoes on. Whilst my daughter's pony only has fronts on and isn't driven, I do know of a few ponies/horses in fronts who are driven. May tie in, may not. He also came over from Ireland originally.
 
Patches it is so odd!!! Sounds like some detective work is needed LOL.. This is the sort of thing I'd be staring at for hours trying to work out!! Although of no importance when pony is such a star, just plain odd.. If you ever find out please let us know.. I thought the 'V' part looked indented, but if it's raised that's even more of a mystery.. will we ever know LOL..
 
You've hit the nail on the head........it is something I keep staring at, whilst rubbing my chin and musing as to the reason behind the definition of muscle tone.

I've honestly never seen anything like it, but it appears others have. As I said to Henryhorn, I'm wet behind the ears when it comes to horses, compared to others who've had horses all of their lives.

I've ummed and arrred over whether it was even appropriate to post a picture of someone else's horse, but I just couldn't resist as I've been dying to know what it is. The horse isn't in ridden work for the next few weeks as he's only recently purchased and is awaiting new tack. It will very interesting to see if the muscle tone alters once regular ridden work commences.
 
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