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If I was to buy a pony with the following points how much would I need to save? What sort of budget would I need?!!

Between 13.2-14.2hh
Between 4-7
County standard show quality
Snaffle mouth
Can jump
No sweet-itch/lami/sarcoids etc
Easy in all ways
Sane and sensible enough to hunt or xcountry on?
With hack alone/in company
Schooled to at least decent prelim standard (65%+ ) with potential for more.
 
Can we find a four year old schoolmaster, well schooled, show standard, and competitive, hunting and cross country. Snaffle mouth and good breeding lines [I assume].
Sound?
Good manners needed, no vices, all injections up to date?
OK, well lets start searching today, start with a budget of £10,000, but keep collecting a few pound coins every week in case that is not enough.
 
A native breed will fit the criteria, price will be dependent on which breed you want, a county standard connie will fetch top money a Dales, Fell or New Forest will be possibly less but not so many to choose from, a Welsh will be easier to find, a budget of £5k should give you options or look for a really green correct 3 year old and do the work bringing it on.
 
that sounds way over the top to me but it rather depends on what kind you are looking for
riding pony
show hunter pony
native mountain and moorland
coloured native or its derivatives
then anything from £2000 upwards horses are only worth what someone is willing to pay and I certainly wouldnt pay much more than £2-3 000 in this market
 
Basically putting my boy out on loan and want something a hand bigger to 'replace' him and those points are exactly what my boy is capable of I just feel a touch big on him- so want the same saneness etc but in a hand bigger!
 
I know of a pony who is (I think) 13.2 and 7, who meets the criteria as stated - she is utterly genuine. She is a new forest. They are asking £6k.
 
just keep your eyes open when out and about with the one you have now, you may find a 'diamond in the rough' something that is well behaved but needs weight and condition.
I agree if you want something proven, working at that level and in good fit condition then you will be looking a 10K plus, but look in the next month or so for something that was doing all these things last year and has lost too much weight or is looking a bit ropey then you may get what you desire far far cheaper
 
I agree 10k isnt unreasonable for that

We used to sell alround connies , good jump, decent schooling but only a few would have been suitable for county level showing, uff aff show record but safe as houses in that age range for 6k
 
That's a good idea twiggy2! I am happy to put the work in but the pony needs to have the quality but needs to be safe as due to a previous riding accident I can't afford to have a serious fall really. But I also do t want to just show, I like jumping and hunting so that's why I thought something with a little bit of proven history- I.e it's been out and can happily pop a course away from home territory!
 
10k not unreasonable for a pony that has already got to county and has all the other attributes that you want.

If you are prepared to put some work in then buying a just backed youngster that has potential will give you something for the right price but you are taking a gamble on the 'potential'. On the upside if you went for a youngster with proven bloodlines and you did get to county level then you would have something that you would have no problem selling on at a profit if you needed to.

ETA - a native or native X could be ideal and gives you lot more class options.
 
shadowboy said:
That's a good idea twiggy2! I am happy to put the work in but the pony needs to have the quality but needs to be safe as due to a previous riding accident I can't afford to have a serious fall really. But I also do t want to just show, I like jumping and hunting so that's why I thought something with a little bit of proven history- I.e it's been out and can happily pop a course away from home territory!
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I may be biased but for this purpose id go for a connie every time! Fab jumps & a lot of showing classes open to them, plus they tend to be pretty brave
 
Depends how serious you are about showing. If you want something for 'round the doors' County Level, i.e. BSPS Area and County Shows rather than HOYS qualifiers you should easily get something for betweeen 3 & 4 k at the moment. You are probably better off with a native if you want an all rounder, the SPs tend to hot up very easily and would you want to risk blemishing those precious little legs by hnting one? A connie would be perfect but they do tend to be the most pricey of the natives.
Have a look on the for sale section of Horse Gossip, always lots of lovely and reasonably priced ponies on there.
 
Hi if you don't want to fall off then you shouldn't really be looking at youngsters, even ponies with a good temperament will have the odd hooley when young and IMO there's no such thing as a safe 4/5 year old. a few years ago we bought a 5 year old connie/tb for £3k and sold him at just 9 for £12K. the difference in price reflected the amount of work we had put in to make him a really well mannered, well schooled pony who had excellent competition records in dressage. SJ and eventing and who was a safe ride. I'd expect there to be a biggish difference i price between a green 4 year old and a much more established 7 year, so you need to take that into account as well.
shadowboy said:
That's a good idea twiggy2! I am happy to put the work in but the pony needs to have the quality but needs to be safe as due to a previous riding accident I can't afford to have a serious fall really. But I also do t want to just show, I like jumping and hunting so that's why I thought something with a little bit of proven history- I.e it's been out and can happily pop a course away from home territory!
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Don't give up yet - mine's 7, snaffle mouth, works beautifully in an outline, hacks alone, is very safe and kind, easy to do in all ways, has a heck of a jump (will easily do 1m tracks and much more with a braver rider) and came 3rd at WHP at the Cheshire Show in 2011. I paid £3.3k for her. She is a part welsh/part coloured.

Having said that I think she was an incredible bargain. When I was looking, I had a budget of around 3.5k and found... nothing. Connies were 6-7k for a very green youngster with potential, and the welshies were all not novice rides. County level fells were also around 6k. I was very lucky to find my girl and she won't be going anywhere my circumstances change dramatically. She's worth her weight in gold as I think all of this type are.

On the plus side, if you buy and bring on a youngster who ends up like your description, you'll have a horse who should be relatively easy to sell and worth a decent amount!
 
A nice New Forest would be a good bet

Lots of the Connie attributes without the price tag!

Prices vary quite a bit but a good pony already tried and proven in the show world could be £7-10K and any number of thousands beyond that but a pony with everything but the showing mileage could be quite a bit less
 
I have an up to height sec. C who has won on the flat at County Shows, WPCA & NPS shows, and BSPS Area shows, placed 2nd in her first ever WHP with a clear round jumping and has X-Country schooled with much enthusiasm, she was 6 years old when advertised for 3k - and I couldn't sell her!! Not advertising as she's not for sale now by the way!
I agree that a New Forest would make a great allrounder, my daughter had a superb pony placed County Level as a plaited WHP (over big tracks) and was a machine to hunt and X-Country. So much so that if Iever buy another for myself it would be a N.F. :)
 
Not sure how much Difference height makes. But I bought a 15.2h sec D version only 3 months ago for £4k. She is forward going but a saint in every way
 
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