What to do with a horse that cannot be ridden (just after you got him or her)

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I have posted separately about some of the issues we are experiencing with our recently purchased horse. This has lead me to some musings on the following

I worked on the assumption when we purchased our first horse last year that we would have a number of ridden years together, as we both got older the level of activity would decrease and at some point the horse would be retired. I also worked on the assumption that if the horse wasn't right for me then I well sell them to a more suitable home and this is what will be happening with horse number one.

However the issues I am currently experiencing with our newest friend meaning that I may potentially have a horse that cannot be ridden from almost the start of owning them, If he stays with me and the issues are treatable and settle that's fine , but if he is not the right horse for me I will not legitimately be able to sell on as there is no way I would want someone else to be in the position I am in at present.

When we had the vet out last week and I was informed it could potentially be very difficult to pinpoint and treat the current issues I have had to reflect on what to do next. I don't have an infinite budget to spend on tests and scans and he isn't insured as the issues were picked in the first fourteen days when he was only covered for accidental external injuries. If the underlying issues are identified and treatable and he is then rideable, and he presents broadly as he did when I tried him then that is fine. If something serious and untreatable was identified that was also gave a very clear if different potential outcome. Its the middle ground, that worries me the most; where something is underlying but isn't diagnosed and sometimes he may appear ok to ride and at others not; especially if this is accompanied by significantly increased energy levels due to lack of regular exercise. He is currently pretty sharp, which is not how he presented when I first tried him, and I feel to be confident riding him I would want him in regular work. (My vague plan had been, before the current issues were identified, was to look for a sharer - not necessarily for any financial contribution but just to keep him ticking over and hopefully for someone else to enjoy as well. )

Do I have to accept that I won't be riding again and now have a large friendly lawnmower for the next ten plus years. In this situation or similar have people made other choices. i was chatting to someone recently who had had young horse put to sleep. I am not in a situation where I have my own land so will have to pay livery.

For what its worth if he isn't rideable he will probably get at least a few years at retirement livery; I have found an option, not locally that is affordable. If family finances change in the future other options may need to be considered but he would have some time to be a horse.
 

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If I'd had a crystal ball and known back when she was a 4yo quite how many problems my Appy would go on to have I'd have PTS. Even retired horses run up the usual maintenance bills and can sometimes incur unexpected vet bills that don't fall into the PTS category (strangles outbreak at a livery yard, skin conditions etc are all costs I've run up for my Ardennes companion).

When I bought my fields last year it was with a sense of relief that the Appy could retire. She's not great retirement material tbh but she's been with me long enough now that I can't imagine not having that huge personality around

I didn't feel the same way towards the semi feral pony that I inherited with the fields. He had a number of physical issues which were going to result in a big vet bill and his behaviour was dire. I made the decision that I didn't want to take on the responsibility of getting him fixed and I couldn't pass him on. With the full support of my vet he was PTS.

In your situation if there's no recourse from the dealer as per your other thread then PTS is the route I'd choose. It's never, ever easy.
 

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I have posted separately about some of the issues we are experiencing with our recently purchased horse. This has lead me to some musings on the following

I worked on the assumption when we purchased our first horse last year that we would have a number of ridden years together, as we both got older the level of activity would decrease and at some point the horse would be retired. I also worked on the assumption that if the horse wasn't right for me then I well sell them to a more suitable home and this is what will be happening with horse number one.

However the issues I am currently experiencing with our newest friend meaning that I may potentially have a horse that cannot be ridden from almost the start of owning them, If he stays with me and the issues are treatable and settle that's fine , but if he is not the right horse for me I will not legitimately be able to sell on as there is no way I would want someone else to be in the position I am in at present.

When we had the vet out last week and I was informed it could potentially be very difficult to pinpoint and treat the current issues I have had to reflect on what to do next. I don't have an infinite budget to spend on tests and scans and he isn't insured as the issues were picked in the first fourteen days when he was only covered for accidental external injuries. If the underlying issues are identified and treatable and he is then rideable, and he presents broadly as he did when I tried him then that is fine. If something serious and untreatable was identified that was also gave a very clear if different potential outcome. Its the middle ground, that worries me the most; where something is underlying but isn't diagnosed and sometimes he may appear ok to ride and at others not; especially if this is accompanied by significantly increased energy levels due to lack of regular exercise. He is currently pretty sharp, which is not how he presented when I first tried him, and I feel to be confident riding him I would want him in regular work. (My vague plan had been, before the current issues were identified, was to look for a sharer - not necessarily for any financial contribution but just to keep him ticking over and hopefully for someone else to enjoy as well. )

Do I have to accept that I won't be riding again and now have a large friendly lawnmower for the next ten plus years. In this situation or similar have people made other choices. i was chatting to someone recently who had had young horse put to sleep. I am not in a situation where I have my own land so will have to pay livery.

For what its worth if he isn't rideable he will probably get at least a few years at retirement livery; I have found an option, not locally that is affordable. If family finances change in the future other options may need to be considered but he would have some time to be a horse.
I’m sorry you are in this situation. Could you be happy if this horse was a lawn mower or would you feel miserable? I’ve been in this situation myself where I tried (and failed) to fix an unfixable horse. I felt it was my duty to try and fix him even at my own detriment (emotional and financial). I would never make that decision again and would not recommend it. I wish I’d PTS earlier than I did ETA some sharp or intelligent horses need a job and retired can become hard to manage
 

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Depends on the horse. I would definitely give him a little time to come right, as many things do right themselves in the field, given chance. If not, and if he has a nice temperament I would try to find him a 'job' as a companion, whether for one of mine, or somewhere locally. If he's not suitable as a companion, I would PTS.
 

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Please do not sell as a companion, if you do go down that route loan to someone you can trust and keep track of. So many stories of companions getting eventually sold on and an unsuspecting person buying as a safe riding horse then getting hurt.
This sport is meant to be fun. It’s a very expensive way of being miserable. Having a horse with issues is no fun and very expensive. It’s hard enough when you have a bond with said horse and can at least look back on the good times
 

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Tbh I wouldn't start worrying until you know it's a definite No on being able to return to the dealer. If that's not an option then I'd ask the vet what diagnostic options you have that wont cost an arm and a leg. You never know, it might be something that is dealable with and he can still do ridden work.

Just to specify though, I would only go down the vet route if you know for absolute definite that you can't return him.

Sorry you're in this situation though, it sounds like you've been incredibly unlucky.
 

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Depends upon the issues, the prognosis and how you feel about the horse.

I wouldn't shy away from PTS in this situation, you don't owe the horse a long retirement and it may be the kindest thing.

I probably wouldn't sell, as there is a risk the horse might be sold on dishonestly or mistreated/neglected. It would depend a bit on the issues and what the horse could offer, I know a couple of people who have sold to people who had a use for a problem/injured horse who they knew would PTS if it didn't work out. I wouldn't discount that entirely but would be very cautious and would probably prefer to loan rather than sell.

If the horse had a prospect of being "useful" to someone but not me I would aim to loan or part loan so I could guarantee the horse's long term safety.

I might also consider turning away for a period of tie if it is the type of thing that might improve with a prolonged rest.
 

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there is no right decision. They are very expensive pets if you dont own land / rent land directly. The right decision for you is the one that sits right with you and you can sleep at night with. For me the decision isnt clear cut, it depends on the horse and the situation.
 

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Could the blood bank be an option? maybe worth investigating.

I keep mine (bone cyst that means he can light hack on soft ground occasionally - discovered 6 months after purchase as I got him fitter he became less sound - 100% sure dealers knew somewhere along the line - hindsight is wonderful ) because he's doing a useful job as companion to my youngster.

They don't plan or think of the future. I would definitely PTS before loaning out if finances meant that was the choice.
I would PTS if having him retired prevented me having another horse to ride. Maybe harsh but IMHO PTS is not a welfare issue and I do enjoy riding and wouldn't (personally) get as much enjoyment out of just caring for a retiree
 

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I feel for you. I once bought one that dropped dead half an hour after he arrived, having just passed a 5 stage vetting with X rays.

Someone told me that was the worst thing that could have happened, but I said no, the worst thing would be if he had lived but had been permanently disabled as I too would have difficult decisions to make.

Some of my horses have earned a permanent retirement place, but I doubt a new one would.

I would return to the dealer, argue about the money later. Go to small claims court.
 

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I have several 'lawnmower', a couple I have had since young, a one point I had two that I had got back as older ponies after a ridden life with problems, and at the end of the day it's how much can you afford financially and emotionally. I spend about £2000 a year on feed, farrier and vet for all five, but I do not pay livery, and I get pleasure from them, but if I could not get pleasure, and they were costing a large proportion of my income I would PTS.
I think I would get a valuation of how the animal stands now, from a horse professional, send contact the dealer with this valuation, and say you want the difference, and try the small claims court for when they refuse to pay, if you can get them to refund the whole if you return him that's even better.
One of my ponies was a lovely yearling, and I had great hopes for him, but he has multiple sarcoids. He is a lovely cuddly chap, but really he is not ridable, and not saleable. I just look at him and think what a shame, if only....., one day he will have to go, but I have had the pleasure of the bouncy, lovely youngster he was,
 
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