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I have this mare on my yard which I have to sell to recover a livery debt, the trouble is that she is 16 years old! And by all accounts she has done nothing with her life & has been completly wasted apart from ending up in a riding school to teach beginners riding.

Luckily, from her passport,I realised that I knew her breeder who used to teach me when I was based in Newmarket- & it turns out that this mare's dam was a very special advanced event mare who did Burghley& Bramham & had a number of foals that went on to do very well eventing (I think.). Unfortunately the breeder sold all of her yearlings at that time and this particular mare was one of them, she cant remember who the mare was sold to so thats as far as her history goes.

I am now stuck in the position where I have to sell a 16 year old horse for which I have no history for. If I cant sell her, she will have to be put down, which would be so sad as she really is very sweet. Selling as a broodmare seems a very viable option? it seems such a waste not to make good use of her good bloodlines, as she is by Java Tiger. She has super conformation and moves so beautifully & I have absolutely no doubt that had she been in the right hands as a 4 year old, she would have been the great eventer that she was bred to be.

This is a pic of the mare- is it worth trying to sell as a broodmare at this age 16? I have spoken to several breeding people including a racing stud that breeds Listed racehorses & they all say that 16 years is not to old to start breeding from.However I've then emailed a few event breeders & they've either not even replied, said she is too old, or said that they are not looking for broodmares at present.

She is very sound & I have been getting her back into full fitness & she is a lovely ride & very smart on the flat now that she has been got going, not quite fit enough to jump yet but looking forward to that. Just dont know wether i can sell a 16 year old as a riding horse that has no competition history, & I havent got the time/money to take her out competing.

Thoughts? Was thinking of putting her in the sporthorse specia editionl of horse and hound thats coming out in april as a broodmare, would it be worth the expense of the advert?

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Please no button pushers, this is not advertising, just at loss at what to do with a 16 year old horse that has just been dumped on me:(
 
She looks like a nice type, but you would have to advertise her as an unproven broodmare as you are not sure if she would even conceive. 16 is borderline getting old especially is she is a maiden and next year she will be 17. If I was to buy her I'd want her now so that I had all season to make sure I gave her the best chance of a 2012 foal. If the price was right, I would think you would have some interest. She would look quite nice in anyones paddock :D
 
She looks a nice sort to just have as a riding horse (assuming she's sound) if I could afford another for my daughter I'd certainly be ringing you up
 
Bloss was 15 and maiden and took first time to frozen when she had Jupi. Shes 19 this year and about to have her second as you know. I dont think 16 is too old, however like Cruiseline as said you dont even know if she will concieve or not, i dont think many breeders would want to buy her and take that risk.

Could you perhaps offer her to Sparsholt for the students? They are always looking for horses.
 
hi,
if you know who she is by, contact that society of her dam and sire and get her DNA tested, then you can update her breeding book, might not be right colour of book but she will have breeding to pass on to her foals will coast few hundred to do this.
if she is a nice safe ride and it is a choice in putting her down, give her away but you should get a sale with her no prob, if going for the broodmare market they like abit more weight on them. she is in brilliant order but i have noticed at sales that a broodmare that isnt in competing or in work apart from light riding, they like abit of weight on them.
she is lovely and too good to put down. if i could i would have her, if she was in a riding school horse she should no prob get a home. also this is the time of year people is looking for something like her. she would suit teenager upwards. even a mother daughter share if she is very quiet. i wish you best of luck and you will have no prob selling her but if for breeding she would sell better with breeding on book, then again in this market, its hard to say.

but over all a mare that is 16 is not too old to breed, all horses are different. but in ad you could say she is ideal for breeding ect, so buyers have a choice. but if it was me i would use the fact she is so quiet and been in a riding school as her advantage, but remember the price you get might no be the best in this market. she is a cutie let us know what you decide and how you get on. best of luck.
any more pics, even of her riding.
 
seabsicuit2 said:
I have this mare on my yard which I have to sell to recover a livery debt, the trouble is that she is 16 years old! And by all accounts she has done nothing with her life & has been completly wasted apart from ending up in a riding school to teach beginners riding.
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Completely wasted? It sounds like she is a wonderful horse who could be quite sought after in the schoolmistress/beginner rider category. I am confused as to why you would try to sell her as a "potential" aged broodmare, which lets face it, don't generally command that much money, when her forte is being a sound and sensible novice riding horse. Your logic doesn't make any sense to me I'm afraid. I'd go with what you have rather than what might, or might not, be.
 
she looks nice but she doesnt float my boat. she looks older than her years is upright in her legs, dropped behind her withers and slightly roachy in her back, and her ability hasnt been proven. she is a maiden and now 16 so would be 17/18 so would want a small stallion for her first. as an unproven maiden she might be worth £500. as an ET mare might be worth a bit more tho they dont like maidens, as a nice quiet (if she is) hack riding horse £1200 to 15oo. hope you find her a nice home.
 
Thank you for all your help/advice guys, its all duly noted! I think I will give it a whirl as advertising as a riding horse first, & just see what happens. I jumped her yesterday & she has a heck of a jump- her back end really flies up behind you but she is not at all confident- very wibbly wobbly most probably due to the riders she's had jumping her before I guess. But will keep on working on it. It is just the lack of time& money i have on my side as i cant keep on feeding a horse that is not going to fetch very much at the end of it all. She's not been ridden for a very long time before I bought her back into work & in an ideal world she needs another 2 months consistent work being competed and ridden to get a good sale, but thats just not going to happen. She needs to build up a huge amount more muscle as she had none at all 4 weeks ago but is so quickly improving every week. I will try selling her for riding anyway! If all else fails , loaning as a broodmare to a stud/stallion owner must be an option.
 
seabsicuit2 said:
Thank you for all your help/advice guys, its all duly noted! I think I will give it a whirl as advertising as a riding horse first, & just see what happens. I jumped her yesterday & she has a heck of a jump- her back end really flies up behind you but she is not at all confident- very wibbly wobbly most probably due to the riders she's had jumping her before I guess. But will keep on working on it. It is just the lack of time& money i have on my side as i cant keep on feeding a horse that is not going to fetch very much at the end of it all. She's not been ridden for a very long time before I bought her back into work & in an ideal world she needs another 2 months consistent work being competed and ridden to get a good sale, but thats just not going to happen. She needs to build up a huge amount more muscle as she had none at all 4 weeks ago but is so quickly improving every week. I will try selling her for riding anyway! If all else fails , loaning as a broodmare to a stud/stallion owner must be an option.
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I agree with the other poster I dont think she has the best of feet or foreleg & think she is better being marketed as a riding horse. Also if you are happy to put her out on loan as a broodmare, why not as a riding horse? A year out on loan to the right home will improve her top line & get her fit to sell.

"as i cant keep on feeding a horse that is not going to fetch very much at the end of it all" - How come, do you not have very much grazing? Just wondered as I bought a TB mare that was a hell of a lot poorer then your mare & she really took off once the grass started to come through. Before that she was on conditioning mix, but it was grass that made the difference & we are coming into that time of year. There are plenty of people looking to loan especially sane horses that will jump, it it just finding the right one.
 
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