What to negotiate for this horse and thoughts?

[dai]

Thinking about taking a look at this horse? The thing is I don't have £3300, but £2900 at a push, is that a cheeky offer? Not that I'm going to make an offer, just don't want to view and waste everyones time if not! Noticed she has been for sale for a month too.


http://www.horsequest.co.uk/search.aspx?ds=1&c&rn=42755

 

[Mrs_Wishkabibble]

I would give them a ring and tell them that you are interested and ask them if they are negotiable on price. Most people are - especially at this time of year and at least then if they say no then you haven't wasted your time or theirs.
You can only but ask!

 

[sheep]

It does say negotiable so I would say go for it. You might not even like her when you go to see her, and you aren't exactly being a timewaster by going to see her, as your budget may be okay providing the owner might feel you were the best home (if it even gets to that stage).

 

[Welshie Squisher]

She is lovely and if the add is honest then she's worth the money.
If me, I'd call them and have a chat, tell them you like the look of her but your maximum budget is 2900 and not a penny more.

It's not cheeky, cheeky is going along, taking their time and then saying I don't have the money! Anyone can spare 2 mins for a chat on the phone

 

[Arizahn]

Sounds fair enough; the advert does say open to offers. And she is still very young as well.

 

[be positive]

I think the price is a little optimistic in the current market, the ad is rather strangely worded, it says she is an allrounder but has only hacked and shown, although has been schooled jumping. The showing is described as county level but not in what classes or any real evidence of success she does look a good type and I would go and have a look.The photo is dreadful where are the ones of her in the show ring, just find out how long they have had her, they may not have owned her for long.

Price they say is open to offers, usually about 10% is fair which is a little over your money but I would think if you offered £2800 they would be silly to not take it, all tack etc is included which, if it is good is worth having.

 

[dai]

Thanks guys!
For a different horse, I got £1000 of the price on the phone the other day but when we discussed it further, she wasn't suitable, so I am feeling optimistic and might try £2800! I will ask about the XC training etc as I was thinking about that too.

 

[noodle_]

id go in at 2600 this close to xmas!

im extremely cheeky tho

 

[Bikerchickone]

I'd go and have a look. The advert does say it's negotiable, and to be fair, now is not a good time to sell a horse. It's a buyer's market at the mo. You aren't wasting their time by looking. Have to say though I refuse to negotiate the price over the phone with anythying before people have been to look. That said I am willing to negotiate once I have the person face to face, and ultimately you only want £400 to £500 off the price, if they don't sell and have to keep her for another few months until the spring then they will spend that and more anyway!

Give it a go and if you like her, good luck.

 

[dai]

I'd go and have a look. The advert does say it's negotiable, and to be fair, now is not a good time to sell a horse. It's a buyer's market at the mo. You aren't wasting their time by looking. Have to say though I refuse to negotiate the price over the phone with anythying before people have been to look. That said I am willing to negotiate once I have the person face to face, and ultimately you only want £400 to £500 off the price, if they don't sell and have to keep her for another few months until the spring then they will spend that and more anyway!

Give it a go and if you like her, good luck.

Good point! She is not too far from me anyway so i might as well take a look

 

[dai]

id go in at 2600 this close to xmas!

im extremely cheeky tho

I was thinking £2500 originally

 

[noodle_]

i was going to say 2500 tbh but i thought i would get jumped on !!

i did not regotiate with my horse as i wanted her before i even viewed her (she was almost a third of the asking price of the one your looking at tho)!

but anything over 2500 i negotiate!.

 

[Bikerchickone]

Agree with above, start low, be polite, they can say no and you can work your way up! Just don't go up too much, too easily, and any counter offers they make negotiate on those too! It's buyer's market and if they're genuine they'll want a good home anyway.

 

[jhoward]

I wouldnt haggle on the phone, id go down see horse, take a wad of cash pen and paper. if all goes well offer 2500 willin gto go up. rule is you can always go up but never down.

your key word is subject to vetting, and ensure you get it written down that providing horse gets a clean 5 stage you will collect within say 48 hours, and pay in cash.

you have to make yourself an attractive buyer, whilst covering your own back.

 

[dai]

I wouldnt haggle on the phone, id go down see horse, take a wad of cash pen and paper. if all goes well offer 2500 willin gto go up. rule is you can always go up but never down.

your key word is subject to vetting, and ensure you get it written down that providing horse gets a clean 5 stage you will collect within say 48 hours, and pay in cash.

you have to make yourself an attractive buyer, whilst covering your own back.

Thanks, I have always been so bad at negotiating so this is quite helpful, I will try this!

 

[dai]

I would tell you to get stuffed IMHO, sorry but that is just rude, £500 below the asking price especially when the asking price is not high is micky taking, again just IMHO.

Willing to look a bit of an idiot, I don't think it's necessarily rude though? Either way I'll see how it goes, got a few to see this week anyway.

 

[HeatherAnn]

I kind of agree with Reachel. It may be a buyer's market but it doesn't mean you can take advantage. The horse looks good although from the ad it looks like their price may be optimistic but to ask for it to be lowered by £500 is a bit cheeky. Especially as you're getting a full wardrobe as well.

 

[dai]

I kind of agree with Reachel. It may be a buyer's market but it doesn't mean you can take advantage. The horse looks good although from the ad it looks like their price may be optimistic but to ask for it to be lowered by £500 is a bit cheeky. Especially as you're getting a full wardrobe as well.

Yeah, I get what you mean. The worst that will happen is they say no, like I said I got £1000 off the price of one when I was discussing with someone on the phone, just by saying my budget so it's only encouraged me!

 

[HeatherAnn]

You should ring them and tell them your budget. That way no one's time gets wasted. If they think you're being out of order they can tell you over the phone

 

[dai]

You should ring them and tell them your budget. That way no one's time gets wasted. If they think you're being out of order they can tell you over the phone

Yeah that's the plan! It's worked with the others, but all the others have been a lot less!

 

[xspiralx]

The other thing you could do is ask for a price without tack - a reasonable saddle and a full set of rugs/bits/boots could easily be worth in excess of £500, if not a fair bit more. If you've got a load of equipment already it might be a way to lower the price without feeling too cheeky.

However price does say negotiable - I think going in at £2500/2600 (provided you are polite about it) is fair, with the expectation you'll settle in the middle somewhere around £2800/2900.

 

[kmat]

I've always found if you are upfront and open about things this will start a trust going between the vendor and yourself. Up and down the country people are needing to sell horses, mostly through circumstances. Some say bidding lower is taking advantage, but which is better for the vendor -selling a horse to a good home at a cut price when it needs to be sold, or being unable to sell and still have running costs which probably add more pressure and as was mentioned before these costs can quickly run up to the difference anyway. The market prices are pretty much the same as 17yrs ago when I was looking, but people don't sell for fun, they normally need to sell, either time, commitment, pressure of work, financial, or to turn horses..you just don't know. If you don't ask, you don't get. I'd rather give a horse away to the right home than sell it for good money to the wrong one.

 

[NeverSayNever]

Ive never paid the advertised price of a horse Ive bought. Ring them and confirm the price is negotiable and then go and see her. I would play your cards close to your chest and not indicate your budget. Afterall, as they have said negotiable in the ad Id expect them to be thinking perhaps down to 3200 and thats not a world away from where you are.

 

[Zimzim]

It does say negotiable on the price in the advert.

Sometimes a seller would rather there horse go to a good home than not go at all, especially in the current climate and time of year.

I think she looks nice and sounds nice, so worth a look personnally.

 

[measles]

Please do discuss your need to negotiate over the phone before viewing. I recently had someone view a lovely irish horse we had to produce and sell and she came three times to see her and only then offered below the asking price. I declined and sold the horse a week later to a lovely home.

Good quality honestly and accurately described horses are selling and if she is those things you don't want to risk losing her. Best of luck

 

[mini-eventer]

Well a months livery and feed etc could well be £300 + and who is to say the horse will sell in another month?

It depends on their circumstances really. If they have not had a lot of interest they may be willing to take an offer thinking about what they may save in the long run. I dont think you are being cheeky at all. Just be honest