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would compliment this mare? Shes 12 years old, has duffed her near fore DFT ,has been denerved for navicular (same leg hence the tendon
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) is very well French bred (so owner says, have yet to see her French passport) was jumping 1.40 with ease. Shes now with me as her box rest has ended and she has to be slowly turned out. Owner would like to breed from her if her leg will stand it! What stallion would you use on her? Forgot to say-shes very laid back and kind natured. M
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sorry to butt in but genuine Q, would like to know more about this - are you guys talking about navicular syndrome or 'proper'navicular? Is there any vet info on the net you can direct me to re the risks of breeding from something with navicular 'type' problems? thanks
 
ditto please do not breed from her if its the heritdary form of navicular, as its just reproducing lame horses
 
I agree with all of you but problem is..she isnt mine
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. Shes here on my yard on retirement/convalescence and her owners want to breed from her in the near future. There is no way I will be able to change their minds so Ill have to do the best I can for her and future foal (if there will be one!). Theyve asked me about GB sports stallions and to be honest I havent got a clue whats around these days and what their offspring are like/doing..
Okay, we will start with the stallions feet..no small or boxy feet..then..??
PS, she does have tiny feet.
 
Have I said something that is taboo or is no one interested in my question? Okay, lets say that shes 10.2 hands and has two heads but she jumps like a stag and is about to do FH..anyone want to reply or arent we politicaly correct? Sorry, I asked a genuine question but obviously....!!!!!
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Have I said something that is taboo or is no one interested in my question? Okay, lets say that shes 10.2 hands and has two heads but she jumps like a stag and is about to do FH..anyone want to reply or arent we politicaly correct? Sorry, I asked a genuine question but obviously....!!!!!
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I think the problem is that most (hopefully none) of us would breed from a navicular mare so haven't really thought about it. Also, even if we did decide to do it I doubt whether any stallion owner (except a really unscruplous one standing a stallion of very dubious quality) would accept the mare anyway and -- to adapt a comment of Groucho Marks -- we wouldn't want to go to a stud or stallion that would accept the mare as a visitor anyway.

Sorry, not very positive or helpful, but you did ask.
 
Mairi, I would reply but don't actually know enough stallions to recommend on. You might have said earlier in the thread but what height is she, and what would they want the foal to be bred to do? Do they have a preference for a particular type?
 
To be very honest, I dont want to see her produce bit I have very little influence in the matter
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. All that I would like to see is a covering with a stallion who would complement this mare. She is about 16h, a bit long in the back for my liking, has small feet and a looooong head.Her athletic capabilities arent in question nor is her character. I was thinking along the lines of an Irish stallion-giving the foal a bit of substance and hopefully shortening that back-his feet would have to be perfect too! The owners have asked my advice re suitable stallions-if I help or not is not going to change the fact that they want to breed from this mare (nav or no). I really would appreciate some sound advice from you all.
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Ps, said foal would have a future career in SJ
 
First, it is not 'true' that navicular IS hereditary - although there may be a genetic pre-disposition. However, it is probably just the foot conformation that makes a horse a likely candidate for navicular problems that is hereditary. Much more important 'causes' are early management, poor trimming/shoeing, excessive concussion etc.

The fact she's done her DFT ties in with the navicular. Concussion between the flexor tendon and the navicular bone can cause a local bursitis - hyperemia and rarefaction of the bone results in alteration of the flexor surface of the bone.

Although a mare with navicular is perhaps not an IDEAL candidate for breeding, if everything else is 'right' then it may be worth taking a risk - as long as the stallion selected has exceptionally good broad feet - especially heels!

She is a little long in the back - so I would be looking for a very compact stallion with plenty of bone, a good short back and VERY good feet! I have an RID stallion who'd suit her in every respect!
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ETA - great minds obviuously think alike!
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JanetGeorge, of your two I think Ari would be one worth considering.

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Nope! First, I don't have him for next season - I sent him home for reasons I won't elaborate on here.
Second - he is rather long in the back.
Three - his feet are a bit on the boxy side - with narrow heels - definitely not what's wanted for this mare! I have 4 mares in foal to him - all RID mares, all but 1 with very short backs (and the 1 had SUCH a big head I took the risk on the back!), and all with the more common (in RIDs) flattish feet.
 
love the grey
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The owners are coming before xmas so will let them have a look at your site. My compliments on your mares and offspring! Mairi.
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love the grey
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The owners are coming before xmas so will let them have a look at your site. My compliments on your mares and offspring! Mairi.
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He IS gorgeous, isn't he! There aren't many nicer RID stallions than him (well, I don't think there are ANY nicer than him - but I am a bit biased!
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) And he's got a fabulous temperament - you can put anyone on him. He's actually a very good 'test' horse for a rider - if they can't use their seatbones, they WON'T get him to canter. If they CAN ride, he'll do stunning walk to canter! He's had girls who thought they could ride in tears because he only responds to the correct aids. But he'll plod around like a riding school nag for a beginner!

But the BEST thing about him is that every foal of his I've seen IS a Raj foal - whatever the mare. They inherit his temperament AND his movement (and his big bum too!) And every mare produces a foal better than herself.

Just as an example:

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This is my FUGLY horse - out of a big grey TBxPercheron called Ruby (sadly now gone to that great stud farm in the sky!) He's by a good looking coloured stallion who USUALLY produces good looking stock. Now to be fair to the Fugly one, it's not a good pic and he's just regaining weight after some bad mouth problems (retained caps) - but he IS as Fugly as they come.

THIS is his half-brother - a year younger - by Raj - who is going to make a cracking HW hunter!

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oooh, a connie ! Love connie crosses
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.Would still like to use a RID though so will have to find another broodmare for the connie. Why cant I be rich or richer?
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