What would you do in this situation??

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OH took the doggles out to the park on Saturday morning, Little Alfie is a bit of a little [****], and not the best behaved person, and ran off to pester a dog on a lead at the bottom of the park near the gate. Before Dan could get down to get him, this man with the dog on the lead walked strait out of the park ONTO THE ROAD with Alf following!! (He was well aware Alf was following) So Dan ran down, grabbed Alf and went completely nuts at this guy and they ended up having a big row in the street!! I've never even seen Dan get mad in two years and he never normally get wound up at all!

Dan was saying that the guy shouldn't have walked out, and just waited for 30 seconds until he came for him, the other guy said that he should have his dog under more control (which is true), what do you think??
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The man was right I'm afraid, also if his dog was
on lead this is probably for a good reason ie
not good with other dogs and it could have been
an incident where your dog may have got hurt.
I think you need towork on Alfie's recall and keep
him leashed until he learns.
 
TBH Wee Alfie shouldn't be off the lead if he chases after other dogs and has poor recall. I know that if my wee Beastie is on the lead and a loose dog runs at her, she panics.
 
But would you have just walked out? Fair enough Dan/we are in the wrong too, but he could have just waited a second instead if letting the dog go with him when he could have got run over!
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He's not that bad, he just gets a bit obsessed with wanting to play with other dogs.
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The park is a really doggy one, and normally has a load chasing round after one and other, but TBH, he can be a bit of a menace up there, normally when he starts yapping and sets all the others off! I think maybe we'll avoid the park from now, and go for walks where other people/dogs are not!
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If you had good enough control over Alfie the man
wouldn't have been brought in to it. One of my dogs
isn't other dog friendly as he's a rescue dog and I get
so annoyed at the amount of people who let their dogs
run up to him (he's always on lead) see's him go ballistic
and they say "oh that one doesn't want to say hello", no
he bloody well doesn't so get your soddin dog away from him.
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I have to say I feel like that too - and my dogs love other dogs!

Perhaps the man's dog is not friendly with other dogs running up to him? If it was an aggressive dog or one which panics, then I can understand why he tried to get out of the park before your dog caught up with him. Was there a gate to this park? Or was it totally open? He could have just walked through the gate and left your little dog still inside the park.
 
Fair enough, but if you saw a loose horse you wouldn't just let it go on the road to get run over, would you?? I certainly wouldn't.
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Perhaps the man's dog is not friendly with other dogs running up to him? If it was an aggressive dog or one which panics, then I can understand why he tried to get out of the park before your dog caught up with him. Was there a gate to this park? Or was it totally open? He could have just walked through the gate and left your little dog still inside the park.

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Well the main part of the park has gated entrances, but then theres a kiddie bit in one corner which has an open gate, we don't normally go down to that part but Alf felt like he had to this weekend.
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Apparently the girl who was with the guy tried to wait and said "Well i did wait so don't shout at me!!"

We've never had this problem before so hopefully it was a one off. We'll keep an eye on the little begger from now on!
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I still think this guy was a pr*ck though.
 
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That said, it still doesn't
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True, but why is your dog wanting to play, not in control, but a dog wanting to munch anything that come within leads length ok?? In control?
 
Mine is too, but I don't want to keep him on a lead at all times just in case we come across someone with a nasty dog who doesn't want anyone near it!
 
Well i think they were both in the wrong but if you had your dog under control then it wouldnt have happned i spose but also the k9 code says if a dog your coming to is on the lead you put yours on because the other dog could be dangerous and your dog may only wnat to be friends but...!
 
Sorry but he shouldn't be off the lead if he doesn't come back to call. I think that the responsibility lies with you both to control your own dog. It is not the others man responsibility to ensure your dog doesn't go out onto the road. It's yours.
 
Hmm no gate. Well he could easily have run onto the road without the help of this man and dog. If I was you I'd just run him in an enclosed area until his recall is consistent.
 
If it was me, I'd have waited in the park until you caught your dog (or even tried to grab him myself), but that's because I would rather not see a dog get hit by a car than prove a point.
That being said, I would (politely) suggest you work a bit on recall before letting him run at a park near a road.

Do you have a 50 ft lead (not one of those extendable things, but a training one) you could treat/clicker train him with? Or does Alfie have a favourite squeaky toy he will always respond to, should an emergency arise?
 
Agree with PROSE.....I also would have waited..as would not want any dog to get hit by a car....but u do need to work on the little mites recall.....I can see why dan got upset at the thought of little Alf poss being hit by a car
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and can also see why the fella would have a go back at dan...make any sense
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...as PROSE suggests good old clicker and treats
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If he's in an open area and has bad recall, your bad I'm afraid. I wouldn't personally do it but I can see why he would get incredibly defensive if he didn't want your dog after him!
Sorry, on the lead if they don't come back.
 
the guy should not have walked off and you should have had the dog on a lead or one of those flexi-leads or at the best do some training so he will behave and can have a life off the lead but ....... that gay was wrong to walk off onto the road, not that considerate. If you had the dog on a lead as you know he may not behave it would never have happened!
 
The man was right for saying Alfie should have been on a lead but not right for walking out of the park. If I had been the man I would have waited for your OH to come and get him and then said 'You know he should really be on a lead'. Nobody wants to see an animal injured or lost so I think he was wrong for walking out of the park but your OH should have had him on a lead.
 
I think your OH was right to do this - some people are just horrible. He could have, as you said, waitied a couple of seconds - after all your dog was in the park and he led him onto the rd!?
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No, yr OH in the right, I think!
 
Yay thank you!! I wasn't saying that we shouldn't have a better behaved dog but the man was still an arse to do what he did I think!

Just read above - apparently I'm bad when I wasn't even there!
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Bad what - bad dog owner? Bad person? bad apple??
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Na yer not 'bad' anything - it was a situation that just arose and it would have not done any harm whatsoever for the guy to have waited a couple of seconds.

Lets face it - we have all let our dogs off the lead for a dash around and they have buggered off for a sniff, wee and frolic wiv other dogs - it's being a dog!!

No harm done anyway - that's how I see it ( whispers -although I still think other guy little unreasonable)
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Your in the wrong. If it had been me and my Damnation I would have walked away too - if I didn't your dog would likely be toast by now! If I had been with my collie X it would not have bothered me in the slightest. As for your OH shouting at the man - what a nerve - hes out walking his dog, under control and you scream at him becaue you cannot control your dog! If anyone is an arse its you and your OH for harrassing an innocent stranger for your dogs bad behaviour!
 
Jinglejacq - firstly, whow - calm down a bit there was no savage fighting going on here - just a simple situation - no big shakes!!??

Secondly - I didnt put the post on - it's NOT my dog!! Please read carefully - then post the correct person.

PS - Wot u mean by toast
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Why am I an arse when i wasn't even there??
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I'll pass the message onto Dan that he is an arse.
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I really don't see why it is acceptable to have a very aggressive dog (even if on a lead) out in public but not a friendly one that tries to play with others?
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