What would you do?

[sam_]

I don't know how to write this without sounding b****y, i really dont mean it to but i am getting a bit annoyed! :-/ Every winter i move my 2 horses to a local livery yard as i don't have a school at home(school in fields in summer)
I have never had a problem with this before but this year whenever i seem to school at night the schools normally quite busy, which is fine obviously but when they all stop for a chit chat with eachother or someone over the fence it really annoys me as they are basically in the way and half of them don't seem to know school ettiquette! I do admit i take the schooling of my beasts quite seriously, especially when jumping!
I don't know how to be polite about asking them to move or stay out of my road when they insist on stopping for chats. They can chat when they are done surely! I know this maybe sounds a bit nasty! Maybe im just too used to having my own space!

 

[AmyMay]

Nothing you can do. Just work around them or school at a different time.

 

[Flame_]

I would stop and chat with them probably.

 

[kizmund]

I love stopping for a little chat half way through a schooling session but I do tend to do it in the corner so I'm out the way. Horsey loves it, no work for a few minutes and a lot of pats and saying how beautiful she is lol.

Is there an option to book the school? If I'm having a lesson or really want to be on my own then I'll book the school. Bug tbh I like riding when other people are in there, I do try and stay out of others way and keep with school etiquette AND it's great practice for competition warm ups where there are people doing a lot worse than stopping for a chat!

 

[sam_]

Nothing you can do. Just work around them or school at a different time.

Its hard to work around them especially if i'm trying to jump, it's not as bad when trying to do flatwork. Unfortunatly i can only ride at night during the week, and i'm away at shows most weekends

 

[AmyMay]

Ah, jumping poses a whole other load of problems - and they may feel about that as you do about them chatting.

If you want to jump I'd be inclined to book the school out soley for that purpose.

And of course, if you're competing at the weekends you may not need to jump at home during the week.

 

[sam_]

I love stopping for a little chat half way through a schooling session but I do tend to do it in the corner so I'm out the way. Horsey loves it, no work for a few minutes and a lot of pats and saying how beautiful she is lol.

Is there an option to book the school? If I'm having a lesson or really want to be on my own then I'll book the school. Bug tbh I like riding when other people are in there, I do try and stay out of others way and keep with school etiquette AND it's great practice for competition warm ups where there are people doing a lot worse than stopping for a chat!

Its different when there's two or three standing in the corner it can take up at alot of room! No there's no way of booking the school unless for a lesson, i tend to go off the yard for my mine. I don't need practisce for riding in the warm-up i need to school mine for the ring! As i said i am soo used to having my own space and not having to worry about anyone! I probably am being a bit harsh lol!

 

[sam_]

Ah, jumping poses a whole other load of problems - and they may feel about that as you do about them chatting.

If you want to jump I'd be inclined to book the school out soley for that purpose.

And of course, if you're competing at the weekends you may not need to jump at home during the week.

This is true they may, but i pay livery for the use of the facilities and if i need to jump them thats what i'm going to do! Again sounds harsh but it's true. I don't have the choice of booking the school unless for a lesson. If i'm away to a show at weekends i either have a lesson on them on the thurs or jump them at home on the thurs

 

[Nicnac]

Go later in the evening? If you're jumping in winter I assume it's either an indoor or has good floodlights.

I used to ride at 9pm when I was on livery in order to have the school to myself (not because I am hugely competitive or any good but just don't like people around me when I'm on 'my time').

If you can't do that, do what I did and build a school at home.

 

[JustKickOn]

Ride at a later time to avoid clashing with them in the school.

Find a new yard who would be happy with your summer/winter set up, and one where you can book the arena.

Politely ask the other riders if they would mind keeping the track clear so you can work your horse without the risk of crashing into any of them.

Just work your horse at one end of the school opposite to where they are chatting, and continue as usual when they have finished.

 

[kizmund]

Didn't really clock that you were jumping. I probably wouldn't jump train under floodlights with more than one or two others in the school.

 

[Spring Feather]

I don't know why so many people on this forum have so much problem just asking other people if they would mind doing this or that :confused3: Isn't the simple solution to this trivial problem to just ask them if they could clear the school please as you are jumping?

 

[sam_]

Go later in the evening? If you're jumping in winter I assume it's either an indoor or has good floodlights.

I used to ride at 9pm when I was on livery in order to have the school to myself (not because I am hugely competitive or any good but just don't like people around me when I'm on 'my time').

If you can't do that, do what I did and build a school at home.

Has a half built indoor at the moment lol, but yeh the outdoor is well lit. I normally get there for 7, i like to head straight from work if i go home and get cosy i tend to lose all motivation lol(i work with horses as well!)

I really am hoping to get one built next year, it would make life so much easier!

 

[sam_]

I don't know why so many people on this forum have so much problem just asking other people if they would mind doing this or that :confused3: Isn't the simple solution to this trivial problem to just ask them if they could clear the school please as you are jumping?

I just dont want them to feel like i'm pushing my weight about, i have only been back 3 weeks! I thought when i'm trying to jump it would be common sense to try and stay clear, and i do say that i'm going to be jumping beforehand

 

[Spring Feather]

I just dont want them to feel like i'm pushing my weight about, i have only been back 3 weeks! I thought when i'm trying to jump it would be common sense to try and stay clear, and i do say that i'm going to be jumping beforehand

For most people it would. But you mustn't forget there are a lot of dim people around, so for them you have to spell it out. And tbh it doesn't matter how long or short you've been there, you are also paying for the facilities. You are being polite in waiting till they finish their turn in the school and they are not reciprocating, therefore you will have to ask them to move please. I own a large boarding stable and even I've been asked to move if I've been gabbing over the fence :biggrin3: so don't worry about it, put your polite face on and simply ask them if they would mind moving please.

 

[Flicker]

Maybe just say something like 'I hope you don't mind but I may canter past you quite close when I turn to take this jump, just so I can get my line right'
They will hopefully actually take the hint and move off somewhere more appropriate to have their chat.

 

[Turks]

It would bug me but I would really try not to show it and v. politely and casually ask them - don't make a big deal of it. You don't want to create an atmosphere but hopefully they'll be adult about it.

 

[sam_]

For most people it would. But you mustn't forget there are a lot of dim people around, so for them you have to spell it out. And tbh it doesn't matter how long or short you've been there, you are also paying for the facilities. You are being polite in waiting till they finish their turn in the school and they are not reciprocating, therefore you will have to ask them to move please. I own a large boarding stable and even I've been asked to move if I've been gabbing over the fence :biggrin3: so don't worry about it, put your polite face on and simply ask them if they would mind moving please.

This is so very true it will have to be spelt out in the end probably! I just don't want my tryin to be polite to be mistaken as being a b***h and upsetting them. It seems to be easily done here! I wish there was somewhere else nearby i could move them to, theres far to many politics and b***hiness here for my liking!

 

[AmyMay]

How about riding in the morning instead?

 

[sam_]

It would bug me but I would really try not to show it and v. politely and casually ask them - don't make a big deal of it. You don't want to create an atmosphere but hopefully they'll be adult about it.

It does bug me, but i suppose i'm being my own worst enemy by staying quiet and trying to work around them! I cantered past one of them the other night and there horse freaked out, i apoligised obviously and once it calmed down she returned to her chatting post! *face.palm.*

 

[Turks]

You're just like the rest of us who'd like a quiet life then Just make sure you say something nicely before you lose it with them!!!

 

[sam_]

How about riding in the morning instead?

I start work at half 7 and i am not the best person in the morning as it is haha! It might be a plan on the days i'm wanting to jump tho!

 

[Asha]

I don't know why so many people on this forum have so much problem just asking other people if they would mind doing this or that :confused3: Isn't the simple solution to this trivial problem to just ask them if they could clear the school please as you are jumping?

This ^^

You have every right to ride at your convenience. Just ask politely if they could possibly move off the track so you can continue to work your horse.

 

[sam_]

You're just like the rest of us who'd like a quiet life then Just make sure you say something nicely before you lose it with them!!!

I am i know, as hard as it can be sometimes lol!

 

[SusieT]

tbh though thery pay for the facilities too and you are only there part time so they may feel their noses are out of joint.

 

[sam_]

This ^^

You have every right to ride at your convenience. Just ask politely if they could possibly move off the track so you can continue to work your horse.

I know, i said this to someone else you pay livery so you can use the facilities, people could argue that so does everyone else, but to me it seems they are being unfair by not allowing me to work my horses properly because i am constantly starting and stopping! I think next time i go to jump and this happens i will have to try and have a polite word!

 

[MerrySherryRider]

Its generally considered bad etiquette to jump at a time when others are using the school.
If you're serious about jumping, you will just have to do what everyone else does, go early in the morning or late evening.
Every livery has the same right to use the school and unless a booking system is in place, you either choose quiet times or see if everyone on the yard would like a session once a week when jumping is done.

 

[sam_]

tbh though thery pay for the facilities too and you are only there part time so they may feel their noses are out of joint.

I just said that, i totally understand that but the owner of the place is happy with the arrangement and i have done this the past four years now. So i'm not bothered if there noses are out of joint i pay to be there and have as much right as everyone else. whenever anyone else is jumping i either wait until there finished or if the school is quiet i can work away easily without getting in the way, is it too much to ask for them to do the same?

 

[Asha]

I just said that, i totally understand that but the owner of the place is happy with the arrangement and i have done this the past four years now. So i'm not bothered if there noses are out of joint i pay to be there and have as much right as everyone else. whenever anyone else is jumping i either wait until there finished or if the school is quiet i can work away easily without getting in the way, is it too much to ask for them to do the same?

No its not too much to ask. With you on this Sam.

 

[sam_]

Its generally considered bad etiquette to jump at a time when others are using the school.
If you're serious about jumping, you will just have to do what everyone else does, go early in the morning or late evening.
Every livery has the same right to use the school and unless a booking system is in place, you either choose quiet times or see if everyone on the yard would like a session once a week when jumping is done.

But when i'm in the school sorting the jumps before i go in, i say that i'm going to be jumping and thats all fine and i do tend to wait until its quieter but that doesn't stop other people coming in once i'm in? I am not rude in any way hence why i haven't said anything yet as can't be dealing with the daggers and its only ever once a week! I respect the other liveries the space they need all i'm wanting is the same respect shown back