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A 6yr old h/w cob. In light - medium work (hacking and light schooling 5 + times a week)

Hes 15hh, and a good doer, they dont want him to be "pepped up" as rider is nervous and hes perfect as he is :)

Will be kept in at night during the winter, rugged and possibly clipped.

Answers on a postcard please! :D
 
Not very good with feeding- always get advice from a friend/ feed companies.

I do think garlic is essential too (only because I like the smell though ;))
 
Fibre, fibre and fibre!!:D

Hay - ad lib - you can soak it if he starts putting on weight but only soak for 30 - 60 mins max and let it drain.

Otherwise A&P Fast Fibre - won't need much but is really good value as it has all the vits and mins he may need as well as a probiotic - also has some unmolassed sugar beet in it. They all love it and lick the bowls clean!! Only 7 or 8 quid a bag as well.:)
 
If he's perfect as he is why does the feed need changing?

But ditto previous comments, good high fibre diet, with a balancer added IF grazing/hay is poor quality
 
trendybraincell said:
If he's perfect as he is why does the feed need changing?

But ditto previous comments, good high fibre diet, with a balancer added IF grazing/hay is poor quality
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Hes not currently getting any feed and living out in a lush field, plus its their first horse :D

She wants him to have some feed but people have been telling her that it will make him mad :mad: Which is very untrue! Just wanted a second opinion, i said hi-fi and nuts with a vit and min suplement and garlic, i wasnt far off then :D

Thanks all! :)
 
second fast fibre its great for good doers laminitics and for putting on weight if fed in enough quantities
i have an info sheet from allen and page if you would like me to email it to you
 
sorry too big to pm so will post here

I emailed allen and page about my good doer cob 15hh who can afford to lose some weight and is hacking/driving 1.5-3hrs a including weddings
they said its a complete feed & to feed him 1kg dry weight per day then up it a bit once his weight comes down.
at 1kg it will give all the vits and mins he needs

here is the fact sheet they sent

The Quick Soak Fibre Provider

DESCRIPTION:
Fast Fibre is an ideal feed for all horses and ponies, in particular natives, good doers, horses with dental problems and others who can’t/won’t eat much hay / haylage, fizzy horses, horses prone to tying-up/azoturia, laminitis,those that suffer from Cushing’s, or any horse/pony that requires a high fibre, low starch, low sugar diet.

Fast Fibre should be mixed with twice as much water to feed and allowed to soak for 30-60 seconds before feeding

NUTRITIONAL ANALYSIS:

Oil 2.8 % Vitamin A 10,000 IU/kg
Protein 8.0% Vitamin D 1500 IU/kg
Fibre 27.0 % Vitamin E 100 IU/kg
Estimated DE 8.0 MJ/kg Calcium 1.1%
Starch 5.0 % VERY LOW Phosphorous 0.4%
Sugar 2.0 % LOW Copper 7 mg/kg

INGREDIENTS:
Cereal Straw - fibre source provides fibre for a healthy gut and to satisfy appetite without excess calories

Oat fibre - digestible fibre source

Unmolassed Sugar Beet - highly digestible fibre, slow-release energy source.

Linseed - provides a concentrated source of calories, and omega –3 oils for a healthy skin, and a glossy coat.

Grass - protein & fibre source.

Limestone flour - calcium source.

Soya oil -provides a concentrated source of calories, and omega –6 oils for a healthy skin, and a glossy coat

Salt - provides essential electrolytes

Vitamins and Minerals - the vitamin & mineral supplement in these feeds provides Vitamin A, Vitamin D3, Vitamin E, Copper, Selenium, Vitamin K, Folic Acid, Nicotinic Acid, Pantothenic Acid, Vitamins B1, B2, B6, B12 , Biotin, Iodine, Cobalt, Iron, Manganese, Zinc, Calcium and Magnesium.

Mint - has a natural pre-biotic effect, creating the right environment for bacteria to grow

Yeast - supplies a natural bio-available source of vitamins

Fenugreek - very palatable and stimulates appetite

Garlic - rich in sulphur, aids digestion by supporting the development of
natural gut flora, whilst killing pathogens.


What makes Fast Fibre different?
Unique quick soak – 30-60 seconds – means that feed is always fresh and mimics the horse’s natural diet
Vegetarian Society Approved – no animal by products or hidden ‘nasties’
Made from high quality Non GM ingredients in a drug free mill
Much higher fibre content than traditional high fibre cubes/pellets
Molasses, cereal and alfalfa free – suitable for horses with intolerances
Very low starch and sugar content
Contains a full range of vitamins & minerals – no need for additional supplements/balancers
Contains yeast for digestive health as well as mint and garlic that act as natural prebiotics
Mint and fenugreek for added palatability
Can be fed on its own or with other feedstuffs
Can be used as a hay/haylage replacer or to make hay last longer


Is Fast Fibre suitable for my horse?

Good doers/natives – Yes, Fast Fibre is low calorie but still contains all the vitamins and minerals your horse needs and is more palatable than a chaff.

Poor doers and horses that need to gain weight – Yes, although Fast Fibre is low calorie it can be fed in quite large quantities if necessary to boost calorie intake. It is also very palatable and fibre is an excellent source of slow release energy that is very effective at putting on weight and condition.

Fussy feeders – Yes, Fast Fibre contains mint, garlic and also fenugreek, an appetite stimulant to make it extremely palatable.

Fizzy or excitable horses/ponies – Yes, Fast Fibre is cereal and molasses free, ingredients which can often lead to fizzy behaviour. The starch and sugar content is very low and instead the energy it provides comes from the high fibre content which supplies the horse with slow release (stamina) energy which is less likely to cause fizzy/excitable behaviour.

Horses & ponies at rest or in light work – Yes, as Fast Fibre is a low energy feed it is ideal for horses in light work or those at rest and due to it being cereal and molasses free is less likely to cause excitable behaviour.

Competition horses – Yes, often competition horses tend to receive diets that are low in fibre but high in starch, feeding Fast Fibre can help to boost the fibre intake and keep the digestive system healthy.

Horses & ponies prone to laminitis or Cushing’s and Equine Metabolic Syndrome sufferers – Yes, being molasses and cereal free Fast Fibre is very low in starch and sugar but high in fibre and provides all the vitamins and minerals your horse needs.

Horses prone to tying up/equine rhabdomyolysis syndrome/ polysaccharide storage myopathy – Yes, Fast Fibre is cereal and molasses free making it very low in starch and sugar and high in fibre.

Horses with gastric ulcers/prone to digestive upsets – Yes, a high fibre diet is very important in these cases to keep the digestive system healthy.

Older horses or those with dental problems – Yes, Fast Fibre will form a soft, palatable mash that requires very little chewing. Fast Fibre can be used to top up fibre intake or as a hay replacer if necessary in horses that can no longer manage hay/haylage/grass.

Horses and ponies with liver problems – Yes, these types of horses need a diet that is low in protein and fat (oil). Fast Fibre has a low protein content of 8% and is also low in oil.

Horses on box rest – Yes, Fast Fibre is low calorie and will not provide your horse with too much energy while he cannot exercise. Fast Fibre also contains all the vitamins and minerals your horse needs and is very palatable and ideal for mixing medication into.

Youngsters – Yes, Fast Fibre is ideal for native types and good doers who do not require a high powered stud feed, Fast Fibre can also be fed alongside stud and youngstock feeds to boost fibre intake.

Donkeys – Yes, its high fibre, low starch content makes Fast Fibre ideal for donkeys.
 
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