Where do reputable breeders advertise these days?

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This is a theoretical question (for now, anyway). I can't get a pup while I have my grumpy, aging rescue dog, but I've been idly looking around at collie pups, thinking of the future.

When I bought my first collie, I picked a breeder from Champdogs whose dogs had good health testing, and in conversation, she was very interested in genetics and quality breeding (for health rather than show). When I lost him, I went back to her for another pup. That was 14 years ago, give or take a few months. She's no longer breeding, as far as I can tell. Both the collies I had from her were wonderful.

I've looked at Champdogs and the Kennel Club website and, while some litters are advertised there, there aren't many, and fewer still with basic genetic / health testing.

Is there somewhere else that litters / breeders are advertised now? Is it all on facebook, or other social media? Or is it that good breeders don't have to advertise their litters at all?
 
As far as breeds I have/have had,your last sentence sums it up. I'm hoping to get another pup in two years time,and im looking to book one from a litter that is just an idea at this stage!
 
Of course,nature being nature,my last pup finished up being a different colour and sex to what I had actually booked. But she has the bloodlines I wanted and is a brilliant dog.
 
I think there's an argument that the really good ones don't have to advertise as enough people will be aware of their output via showing, sports, activities etc. that they will be contacting them before time to join waiting lists.

FWIW for my last one I initially saw the planned mating advertised on a sport related FB page which prompted me to look into the breeder; last one before that I enquired via a member of the breed club's committee and was introduced to breeders when I attended the club's open show.

I know of a planned mating of possibly the most temperamentally sound collie of my acquaintance (agility breeding) with both sides comprehensively tested but I think they're already spoken for many times over. What area are you in, in case anyone else can help start the ball rolling?
 
Well established breeders rarely advertise. They only breed when they have a reason for doing so and will usually have a waiting list of people looking for a puppy. It’s then a case of matching up people and puppies as not all litters will produce requirements of dogs or bitches and people are often prepared to wait especially if they’re looking for specific bloodlines or maybe want a relative of a previous dog. Breed society secretaries usually know what’s going on and can often put people in touch with suitable contacts. If using Platforms like Champ Dogs it pays to research very carefully and check back with the breed society.
 
gallopingby said:
Well established breeders rarely advertise. They only breed when they have a reason for doing so and will usually have a waiting list of people looking for a puppy. It’s then a case of matching up people and puppies as not all litters will produce requirements of dogs or bitches and people are often prepared to wait especially if they’re looking for specific bloodlines or maybe want a relative of a previous dog. Breed society secretaries usually know what’s going on and can often put people in touch with suitable contacts. If using Platforms like Champ Dogs it pays to research very carefully and check back with the breed society.
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This.

Breeders needing to advertise tend to go to Champ Dogs and Pets4Homes. The latter is monitored and they require a licence number after a few litters are advertised. The latter also work with the LA's to expose illegal breeding enterprises.
 
We fell lucky with our last puppy as his cery reputable breeder is a friend. Certainly in his breeder they dont advertise. The club secretary knows of litters but I'm yet to meet a breeder without a list as long as their arm twice over.

We've started the hunt for our next of a different breed and we've started with contacts through showing but will also contact the breed society and head to the breed champ show.
 
As above , a lot of reputable breeders will have pups booked before the bitch is even mated. Champdogs or KC website are probably the most used (decent breeders avoid Pets4homes I think nowadays) but bear in mind that the KC site does not guarantee breeding stock has been health tested.
In GSDs there are a couple of "puppies available" fb pages which only allow health tested stock , I would imagine most breeds will have the same.
It would be worth contacting the breeder of your last dog, I haven't bred a litter for 13 years but still get people asking for advice when they are looking for a new pup.
 
Thanks all - that's helpful. I rather suspected that might be the case. This is why I'm looking into it now - so I can find a suitable breeder and get in line when it's time.

blackcob said:
I think there's an argument that the really good ones don't have to advertise as enough people will be aware of their output via showing, sports, activities etc. that they will be contacting them before time to join waiting lists.

FWIW for my last one I initially saw the planned mating advertised on a sport related FB page which prompted me to look into the breeder; last one before that I enquired via a member of the breed club's committee and was introduced to breeders when I attended the club's open show.

I know of a planned mating of possibly the most temperamentally sound collie of my acquaintance (agility breeding) with both sides comprehensively tested but I think they're already spoken for many times over. What area are you in, in case anyone else can help start the ball rolling?
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I'm in Suffolk, but obviously willing to travel for the right breeder. As I say, no puppies for me while the old lad lives, so it's entirely theoretical right now.

Dog would be a companion, possibly low level agility. I did some agility with my first collie, the second one wasn't wild about it.

I will try to get in touch with the breeder they came from - annoyingly I did all the contact through a work email address I haven't had access to for a fair while, so I'm not sure how easy it'll be to resurrect contact!
 
AdorableAlice said:
This.

Breeders needing to advertise tend to go to Champ Dogs and Pets4Homes. The latter is monitored and they require a licence number after a few litters are advertised. The latter also work with the LA's to expose illegal breeding enterprises.
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I'll have a look at Pets4Homes, thanks.
 
MurphysMinder said:
You probably won’t find that sort of dog on Pets4homes 😏
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Whilst 95% of the litters on there are weird cross-breeds, and questionable backyard litters, there are a few breeders with full health screenings and genetic backgrounds. They're not necessarily breeders I'd choose, but they do seem to exist.

All the older dogs being passed on is damn depressing though.
 
Some famous breeders advertise on Pets4Homes and other sites. I am always amazed that the top show breeders don't have a website, or don't keep it updated. You can't expect people to know where to get a "quality" puppy if they are not advertised.

The KC puppies for sale portal is not the easiest to find and Champ Dogs has not the number of adverts it used had a few years ago. I bought one of my dogs from a Dog World advert years ago. I have not seen Our Dogs for sale locally in years. I don't know if it has many ads, as the online version gives very little away without having to pay for it
 
One way is to go to an event such as a show, dog sports, working trials etc have a look at the dogs and decide which appeal to you. Get a catalogue and research lines/breeders of those who caught your eye,and then aim to get on the waiting list/s of your chosen breeders. Sounds more complicated than it is and anyway,there is nothing better than new puppy hunting!
Also provided you don't ask them just as they are about to compete, dog folk will talk to you about their breed forever!!
 
Tbh all my girls were on Pets4homes. All had the required eye screening etc. and have been fine 🙂 I don't pay stupid money either or buy those labelled as "toy or teacup". I also upset a "proper" breeder when I pointed out her in breeding co eff was way over the breed standard. Just trust your instincts.
 
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