where have the good manners gone

[hettywhite]

I'd like too know why my local hunt feels that good manners are know longer needed?

I have nothing against hunts, i learnt to ride through them and was tought a very strict etecet by a hunt in herts area..

this included dress code, turn out, and how to treat people... That hunt would warn all livestock owners / horse yards when they were possibly to be in the area, and as a consequence the hunt had a lot of respect.. On moving back to wales..

none of this happens..

- no field marshals to help the master when on the road so traffic gets blocked

and yesterday whilst dealing with the farrier they came past my house and land with no warning what so ever.. as a direct consequence my tb broodmare jumber a wall and now has cuts all over her hind legs...

all im saying is that a note through the door could have prevented this and i would have known to make my horses safe. The Masters response was tuff i'm your next door neighbour!!!!!!!!!!! well to me if he is then all he had to do was knock on the door...
(isidently i have fields to my left and right and i know my neighbours over the road and it was niether of them)

Has their been any form of appology... has their heck!!

It is the actions of hunts like this one that give others bad names and is the sole reason for their lack of support when it came to the vote.

On a lighter note.

I would like to thank the gentlemen on the bay cob who did offer to help, but was unable to as he mounted.

So please come on play fair a photo copied note through the door costs nothing and moves mountains.

 

[winterhorse]

i am not condoning their actions, but it is the actions of anti hunt supporters that lead to hunts being a closed society, afraid of advertising themselves for fear of some peoples actions.
i am also aware that not all antis are like that, but again because of the actions of a few, most are tarred.
i am sorry for you bad time and i hope you can get a resolve, but unfortunatly there are rude people every where.

 

[hettywhite]

there have always been antis i can remeber tweenty odd years ago ( i was approz 12) being surrounded by anties telling me that i was being brain washed by the establishment. and then on the very same day having to charge on my arab x down a ploughed field to turn the hounds as the antis had laid a sent down to a major motorway. So i do understand about antis but even so the threat will never go away and the only way for the mould to be brocken is to take the risk and make friends not new enemies.

 

[hettywhite]

thanks for your reply though

 

[peakpark]

quote/ It is the actions of hunts like this one that give others bad names and is the sole reason for their lack of support when it came to the vote. /quote

I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but I really don't think you can blame incidents such as that for the ban.

The Labour MPs who pushed through the act of parliament knew absolutely nothing about the manners of hunt followers - and nor did they care.
The nearest any of them had got to hunting was driving past a pub called the Fox & Hounds

 

[wrighty]

It is amazing what is put on here from time to time.
Someone comes and complains about the treatment of an idividual and it is somehow turned around to being the fault of Anti's, what a load of poo.

If the hunt has nothing to hide then they should advertise when the hunts are on, it is only when you hide your activities people will assume you are breaking the law.
Before anyone harps on about no hunts advertising I should point out that ALL the hunts in the Herweford area were advertised in the Hereford Times a week before Xmas and there was no reported trouble from any of them, from either Pro's or Anti's.

It has been said in other threads that SOME hunters think they have a right to ride when and where they want and others (including other hunters and horse owners) should get out of the way, this behaviour should not be accepted by anyone and challenged if it happens again.

 

[antiantianti]

"they should advertise when the hunts are on," the judge in the Quantocks appeal said that advertising the hunt prior to it happening would male them more likely to be comitting an offense.

 

[winterhorse]

" they should advertise when hunts are on"

i'm from a drag pack and we do a lot of advertising, but still we get people shouting abuse at us! i'm sorry but some people just want to be pains in the backsides.

 

[JenHunt]

i quite agree. some people just don't get their facts straight before they make a fuss!

on the otherhand - Hetty, I entirely agree with you. our huntsman and secretary make a point of visiting all the landowners in the area and letting them know we will be around on whatever day, even if we have no intention of going across their land, you never know what a hound left behind will do. and we always make a point of trying to let horse owners in the area know too.

i hope the injuries to your mare are not too serious.

 

[pottamus]

You could get in touch with the hunt and ask them to send you their meet card so you know when they are going to be in the area. I did that with the Barlow hunt and they write each year with a meet card and then a couple of days before the hunt I get a letter too. But they cannot possibly do this for all people in the area with horses...there would be too many! I think if you have horses and know there may be a problem, the onus is on you to find out when things happen in order to protect your livestock/horses?