Where on earth will I find a roma rear riser pad??

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My instructor has one and I need one for my youngster but I can't find one anywhere... Does anybody know where I could get one? I don't like the prolite ones...

Thanks!

Jane
 
I used to have one of these but cant remember where I got it from, maybe Robinsons Country Leisure?? I have just googled it and Doveer Saddlery do the Roma riser pads, not sure if they do the rear riser.
 
I'm not 100% (maybe 98%) but I think Roma are a subsidiary - or maybe another range - of Weatherbeeta so if you could find a tackshop who stocks W'beeta they will be able to order one in for you.
 
Yup appylass you're right

Anywhere that stocks Weatherbeeta will be able to get you a Roma / Wintec one.
 
I mean this critiscism to be constructive- pads under a saddle move pressure from one area to another. Rear riser pads are actually the worse for this. If the saddle is not meeting the horses back towards the rear of the saddle then you really should consider getting another saddle. The pad wont make the saddle fit, the problem will still be there and by using a riser or carrying on with the saddle as it is you are seriously risking making the back sore. This is obviously undesirable with a young horse trying to learn and a safety issue for the rider too.
 
teddyt said:
I mean this critiscism to be constructive- pads under a saddle move pressure from one area to another. Rear riser pads are actually the worse for this. If the saddle is not meeting the horses back towards the rear of the saddle then you really should consider getting another saddle.
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Agreed, but for a youngster changing shape, they can often build this muscle up when they start work, and if its just to balance the rider where the saddle tips back, it isn't so bad (as opposed to stopping a flapping saddle)

I use this key hole pad occasionally:
http://www.horsehealth.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=140_163&products_id=1156

I don't like the big all in one foam jobs as they lift too high (over an inch!), in fact this link is actually a bit thick and really I could get away with buying a cheapy synthetic half saddle pad, cutting this pattern and shave the edges to make the gradient good. Might be worth a try and will cost c.£15

Other risers are far too thick.
 
By lifting the back of the saddle with a keyhole pad or any rear riser one of the main problems is it pushes the points of the tree into the back of the shoulders. So the saddle may not flap any more but the pivot point is still there and the tree points are pushed down. The pressure is just moved from one place to another.

Never worth it on any horse imo, let alone on a youngster whose experience now could affect the rest of its life.
 
But if you had squished down flocking or latex flocking etc, where you cannot push more flocking in, then surely you must agree that you can make balancing adjustments without massively moving the points.

Otherwise you are saying the rear of the saddle can never be altered (i.e adding flocking) without affecting the points, but that's not quite true?

For example I can put more air into the back of my wow, or use a riser (unfair example as the wow is almost pointless!).
 
I see what you are saying but i'll elaborate what i mean-

The seat should be level, with the panel weight bearing all the way to the back of the saddle. If the tree points are the correct width and placed behind the shoulders in the correct place and the saddle is gapping at the back then the rear of the panel is either too shallow or the tree is too curved for the horses back profile (or both).

Flocking fine tunes the fit of a saddle- it doesnt make a saddle fit whose panel is too shallow or the tree is too curved. Additional flocking is a small amount used to make the panel 'bespoke' to the horses muscles.

Pads are symetrical, one size (surface area) and one thickness (usually). So this fills in a gap equally both sides, regardless of whether the thickness, surface area or both are needed to be the same or different both sides. i.e. its an inaccurate compromise.

If the gap is small then you use flocking (and this wont affect the points) but if the panel needs to be stuffed so full that it becomes bulbous (so causing another problem of reduced surface area along the panel length and also reduced pressure absorption because its too hard) to make the panel touch the back or this is still insufficient then the panel and/or tree are wrong. A riser wont rectify this. It just fills in the gap in a very crude one size fits all approach.

Hard to explain without a saddle and horse in front of me! But do you get what im saying?
 
Thanks for all of your replies, the issue I have is that the horse is not mine, and I have just started riding it. The saddle is not a terribly bad fit to be honest and the horse is not sore at all, and so my judgement at this stage is to use the riser pad and keep checking her each time I ride. I have to be sensitive about how I approach things with the owners as my main objective is to stay involved and keep bringing her on.
 
Thanks - please see my reply further down, I meant to reply to you direct but haven't been on the forum so long since I lost my horse I had forgotten how to use it!

Jane
 
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