Which breeds of dogs do "you" class as "vicious", untrustworthy???

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There have been many debates on here with regards to "certain" breeds being aggressive etc and that all dogs of that breed are of that nature and some breeds came up that i would NEVER of thought people would have classed as dangerous etc. I am not looking for a debate as i have voiced my opinion on this matter many times and i would like to hear what types You class of a certain temperment manner.
 

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i wouldnt go so far as to say they are vicious but i've always had lots to do with collies and they arent always the best natured dogs! we've had most dogs from staffies to jacks and standard poodles but i'd definately say that on the whole the collies are the easiest to p off to the stage that they'll bite you!!
 

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The type of dogs that i dont trust, not saying that they are all nasty just takes the wrong breeding or upbringing most of the time, but i would say jack russels, rotties and pit bulls.
They are the ones that stand out in my mind anyway.
 

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Most of the guarding breeds if bred by ignorant or backstreet breeders from poor stock with little or no regard for temperament, i.e. GSD's, Rotties etc. (Or 'over bold' dogs that won't back down no matter what, often of imported stock - fine for Ringsport types or if your name's Mick Martin but lethal in inexperienced hands!)

Having spent several years living in SE London however, I wouldn't even entertain the idea of a Pitbull & those who have them & 'trust' them implicitly have either been very liucky so far or are simply living under a false sense of security!

Some of the nastiest, most vicious dogs I have ever encountered however are of breeds one would not normally consider & some of the worst dog attacks on owners I have encountered have been inflicted by 'nice' breeds such as Golden Retrievers! (Get a dodgy one of these & jeez, watch out!)

Most dachsunds I have met have been vicious little swines, a fair amount of Yorkies & Chihuahuas are virtually off the scale on the 'nasty factor'! lol
 

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THESE!!!!!!




Lol, sorry i couldn't resist.
I find it hard to trust rotties, i know they aren't all the same, but knew a couple of real mean boys, and that kind of did it for me
 

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Have run a boarding kennels for many years, and have been bitten most by collies! However, I had a collie in last week that had been professionally trained and it was delightful. Although genetics/breeding plays a big part in temperament, I think upbringing and handling are equally influential.
 

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My neighbor's poodle was killed by another neighbor's rottie (owners total half wits...) poor lady was injured herself.
I was attacked by a doberman once.
2 little girls were killed last week in France: One by a rottie, the other one by 2 Great Danes + an old man sent to hospital by an American Staff.
In the last 3 cases ,all dogs were family dogs of the victims.... Disturbing...
But I've known lovely rotties, dobermans and great danes.
The owners are the biggest issue most of the time.
 

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i have a problem with st bernards as i was attcked by one that was wired up wrong when working in kennels, we always hear of the rotties and the pit bulls etc attacking but we dont hear about all of the labs and the terriers and other good breeds attacking so as a result certain breeds get named and shamed.i take a dog for its individual personality but st bernards do scare me now because they could do so much damage.
 

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I blame the media, they make a big thing about attacks and the dogs are alwasy the same breeds thereofre the "general" public are mislead into thinking all dogs of those breeds are of that nature when they simply are not, e.g horses, some offspring are easily trainable and some sires are renowned for producing horses that dont have the mose desirable trainability thus dogs are the same and breeding, genes, and of course the owner/traning are the "big issue". i could go on all day about this but i am really interested in what you people personaly think of certain breeds "general temperments".

as said above, at shows, the little ones would have you but the rotties, dobermans, bulls, etc are of great nature and so adorable but then again they are trained and bred by great breeders and some of the dogs temperments are awful and so unpredictable due to amateur breeding and training! sorry rant over!
 

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Most of the guarding breeds if bred by ignorant or backstreet breeders from poor stock with little or no regard for temperament, i.e. GSD's

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Very wary of GSD's, and I know it's silly, but I had so many run-ins with that breed when I was a child. Every farm near us seemed to have one on a long chain--that wasn't quite long enough


Also had terrible dealings with Jack Russells chasing me on my bike/horse on public footpaths. I have since met lots of sweet ones, and am more inclined to pet one of the little boogers at the park.
 

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I was biten by a GSD whilst out cycling, it was a friends gsd and it was PTS within days but i alwasy thought if the dog was socialised more etc then it would never have happened as the dog was always on its toes, bless her. I see may at shoes and their temperment is impeccable but then you get the riff raff!
 

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i have a problem with st bernards as i was attcked by one that was wired up wrong when working in kennels, we always hear of the rotties and the pit bulls etc attacking but we dont hear about all of the labs and the terriers and other good breeds attacking so as a result certain breeds get named and shamed.i take a dog for its individual personality but st bernards do scare me now because they could do so much damage.

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oh no what a shame, i trust my St Bernard 100%, however I have no doubt if anyone tried to hurt me, or break into the house, he woud do his best to really hurt them.

He has a very kind loving nature, but only listens to me, he is extremely affectionate and loyal, 1 in a million, but most people i meet are petrified of him, despite him being super friendly!
 

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its def wat you make them, i think collies can be very sly and often get you from behind but mine is a complete dope he loves people and would never hurt anyone the same for my rottie and he was a rescue who has been knocked about a bit.i completely agree with tophorse about bad publicity for certain breeds.
 

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st_ bernard although very wary of them now i do make an effort to make a fuss of one if i see one and i feel it is friendly
more to try and break my fear as have no fear with anyother breed
, the dog that did it was a complete fruit loop and had attacked 3people in a week, we think he was stolen at some point which we did report he was rehomed in okehampton
which i disagreed with as it could be a child he has next, its like a switch that goes off in his head, great shame really and i dont hold it against the breed just wary lol
 

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I try not to be wary of any breeds. I don't class them as untrustworthy, it's the owners more than anything cause a bad dog! Eg I love Staffies, I think they're cracking dogs but so many chavs have them that I never quite know what way to take the dog which is unfair as any I have come across are the most soppy things you can ever come across.
 

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I agree it is not a breed thing, far more down to the owners. However some breeds have the power to do more damage and also attract the wrong sort of owners hence their reputations,i.e. GSDs , rotties. However, I have lived with GSDs all my life (my Mother bred them before I did) and have never been bitten by one. I have been bitten by collies and JRTs though! Our neighbours have a schipperke who I certainly wouldn't trust, it has bitten several people, including both my children, and if I go down there I always carry a whip! Had this been a big dog it would have been put down long ago.
 

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So right about the dog would have been put down before if it had been bigger.

Yes, it's mroe reputation than anything really isn't it? I must say I love GSDs and Belgian shepards as well. I first saw a Belgian at an RAF display and fell in love
 

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I have to say I'm always a bit wary of Jack Russels. All the ones I know seem to have issues, either agressive to people or dogs or both. I'm sure that there are many lovely ones out there but I have yet to meet them!
 

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Most of the guarding breeds if bred by ignorant or backstreet breeders from poor stock with little or no regard for temperament, i.e. GSD's, Rotties etc. (Or 'over bold' dogs that won't back down no matter what, often of imported stock - fine for Ringsport types or if your name's Mick Martin but lethal in inexperienced hands!)

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You hit the nail on the head there!
Have trusted and would trust a good GSD with my life, wouldnt let a poorly bred or badly handled one near me.



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Some of the nastiest, most vicious dogs I have ever encountered however are of breeds one would not normally consider & some of the worst dog attacks on owners I have encountered have been inflicted by 'nice' breeds such as Golden Retrievers! (Get a dodgy one of these & jeez, watch out!)

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*Nods* Years ago when I was about 8/9 one of my GSD's saved a girl(also about 8) from a local GR.
My guys were always the ones people crossed the street to avoid but were fab(unless you were a cat and the bitch saw you or anyone with a walking stick witht eh dog, but he dived for cover nothing more).
Big brother had taken me to the park with them, the golden was there and after having a pop at me and being seen off by my bitch went for another 8 year old.She had done NOTHING to provoke it, the dog had always been dodgy.
Thankfully in the end it had the sence to back down to my two- but by then they had some nasty bites and the little girl was scared for life


Needless to say mine(dispite being free to good home jobs) were well bred(the dog was Olderhill, no idear what the bitch was but she ozzed quality) and the GR was bred by someone in the free sheets


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Most dachsunds I have met have been vicious little swines, a fair amount of Yorkies & Chihuahuas are virtually off the scale on the 'nasty factor'! lol

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HAHHAHA,have always said if the yorkie was any bigger it would be on the DD list,lol!
He doesnt have anywhere the length of fuse as anything else I have met.
 

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I find Collies sly. Dobes and GSD's tend to bite and not maul. Rotties can be soppy or nasty. Jrt's and Poodles nippy or snappy.

Met a pitbull and she was lovely, met wolfdogs and they are probably the nicest breed I have met.

There are nasty dogs in all breeds and good dogs in all breeds just depends how they've been brought up and handled.
 

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I don't think you can class any breed as dangerous. It is all how to do with how they are socialized & brought up. IMHO.
I have know a elderly couple upthe road have 4 Rotties 1 after the other after losing them at 6yrs+ to cancer & each one was about the softest dog I have come across & they all came from different breeder.
 

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You're so right!

I was so scared of rotties after one came at me and attacked me and my little terrier(I was about 12) until I worked in a hunting yard in Ledbury and they had the softest rottie, she followed me everywhere!

Totally how you bring a dog up IMO.
 

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Soz have just read that you wrote the same as me way before me!!!
I would probably say the softest dog (hound) I have come across is a pack of hunting hounds be it beagles, bassets, fox or Harrier ect. As they are brought up as a pack & they have a un questionable pack leader (the Huntsman) They do not question him ever but they are also not scared but love their Huntsman. Again I believe this is how they are brought up. No aggreesiveness will be tolerated just as if they were in a natural wild pack.
Yes I am a hound fan but this has nothing to do on my opinion it is just I have the great pleasure of being access to watch something wonderful in the connection any Huntsman has with his pack. It is the same if it is the same person that has been there or a new person just settling in after the first year they will look to him as the last guy. As they treat them as dogs not baby's or hard look accessory.
I know my 2 are very well behaved & have never attacked or show aggresion to anyone yet they will not be as good as the pack of hounds I have the great pleasure of knowing.
I'm not saying anyone (stranger) could walk into THEIR kennle at night & they wouldn't be upset (as it not the norm) but in day time If I had a child I would happily let it walk into the main pack during daytime & they would prob lick child to death or curle up asleep with it!! But again that would only hypothetically happen with the pack I know I wouldn't let that happed at any pack. (Not that I would do it with this one (as you never know with ANY dog) what may set them off)
Years ago when I was walking a friend alsation out I was about 12yrs old there was this girl & lad of about 17 went to walk past, he was not happy & went for them, luckily didn't make contact. Yet with the owners 3yr old kid he was as soft as anything, David use to grab his tail & instead of snapping Watson would turn round & lick David in the face knowing this would make him let got to cover his face & stop the licking so Watson could go & escape. This was a dog the owners got as they had been broken into 3 times. They still got broken into & poor Watson was beat once & second time beaten but also had superglue put into his eye's. He never changed his attitude withthe family once. That dog had the heart of a lion & could so easily had a change of charecter & you wouldn't of blamed him.

Whoops I seem to have rambled on!!
 

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I think that any breed can be vicious if brought up in ignorance or mistreated! I dont think it matters what breed what matters is the knowledge and training ability or lack of it in the owner/trainer.

I think working strains of breeds become more susceptable because they have a lot of natural nervous energy, with which to do the day job, then are often sold by "breeders" to totally unsuitable homes who have no idea how much energy the dog needs to expend on a daily basis to stop it climbing the walls and a best eating the furniture etc and at worse biting someone!

There ought to be some kind of education for dog owners in the do's and don'ts and some dog psychology so the pooch doesn't run the pack of humans! It might be funny to some people to have a snappy yorkie, but up it to a large breed and someone gets badly hurt and the breed gets a bad name.

I have seen nice tempered pit bulls in the US, but their owners are inevitably experienced and knowledgeable dog owners. It's just that pit bulls have the potential to do much more damage than and angy yorkie!

personally I have always rehomed and it makes me want to cry with the way my dogs have been treated in their early days! My latest is a real challenge, allegedly beaten as a puppy, then given to someone who let him have his own way, so when I got him he had perfected the art of making humans back off quickly. I dont so I had to endure some quite nasty bites before I asserted my dominance and I now have a much better adjusted dog who is happy for me to make decisions. I have had to be very hard on him (not physically) and it has been a slow process for him to adjust to being a subordinate instead of being in charge, he still has hangups and is a work in progress but is no longer a danger.

So it works both ways but I would prefer people didn't make them into a monster for me to correct!
 

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The nastiest dog I know is my in-laws Lhasa Apso, he's a god awful nasty viscious little mite - but he is a product of his upbringing.

I have to this day never met a nasty dog. My old collie/mongrel cross was a sly bugger and would bite anyone but me lol

I dont trust little dogs - they have little dog syndrome! But I love them all the same!

Hang on - I tell a lie - I have met one nasty dog in my life...

BOB the farmers collie.

I went one day to pay for hay and was knocking on the door, heard a noise behind me and Bob had come round the corner. I sh!t myself, he was low with hackles up and all, queue me
"Hi Bob its ok boy Im just paying for hay..blahblah"
He took no notice of me and just stood their growling at me, so I moonwalked out of there not once taking my eyes off him - and his eyes didnt come off me either. He's the only dog Ive ever met that had decided he would bite me without question! lol
 

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I don't class any breeds as dangerous, just the people who own some of them!

My Vizla is a very loving, soppy animal but she was under socialised by my family as a puppy. I've now taken her on and I'm working with her to try and solve her issues but she is deathly afraid of people she doesn't know. I know she would attack someone if she didn't know them, and they went into my house without me. I will freely admit this is totally because of how she was brought up. (Which is why she is now living with me)
 

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Black Labs - had a number of run-ins with them over the years....and had one this morning whilst out riding - Lab decides to run across busy highway to "attack" us, whilst almost causing an accident and dog was nearly knocked over by massive US Artic truck.

I have never met a bad Pitbull, however I would never in a million years trust one. Breeding and upbringing both play a very important part of a dogs psyche.

I've always had collies; all of mine have been the most fabulous dogs. I have a wonderful Belgian Shepherd now and my Akbash is totally and utterly delightful! I've never had a dog with a bad demeanor thankfully - mine have all been perfect canine citizens.
 
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