which calmer???

madalicedj

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My horse is a sweetie I am having him professionally schooled 3x a wk. Now a lot of factors come in to play. Full clip in cold. The snow messing up routine inclu work outs n time in field.
He is getting fitter and feeling good. Great right. A bit more on his toes. Normal.
But its just slightly more than that. The lady schooling picked up he was changing ages ago and said to reduce feed a touch. I didn't initially but did as I saw him feeling good and when she mentioned it a second time I knew to listen to her.
He still seems not quite right. We want to get just the right balance for him and I am looking at trying a calmer. Just something to help. He is great but not submissive enough and discipline in his work. He knows what to do but will get balshy wasting time before he settles by which time yo need to stop anyway.
He can be delicate with his tummy. Can be a bit spooky of late also. I wondered if a calmer that can help prevent tummy upsets also would be better.
Any advice folks.
Sorry i go on so long
 
I've had great results with Cool, Calm and Collected, by Equifeast...magic stuff!

If he's getting a delicate stomach this may be the cause so it might be worth getting him on to a digestive supplement and see if that improves him at all.
 
My youngster is simply on Mollichaff Calming Chaff and brewers Yeast. I have started to introduce magnesium, simply because we're coming into the time of year when the grass can be deficient - and apparently this can cause them to get a little lively!
 
I think look at his food and regime first. Calmers are very expensive and I've never been convinced they don't work by a 'placebo effect' on the rider (which is OK if it works)
 
I'd ditto the food response above. My grey boy is KER-A-ZEE on haylage but dopey on his balancer and chaff. The big ginger lad (who is already on just balancer and Hifi Lite) responded very well to Nupafeed (used by many TB yards) but it is expensive.
 
A calmer will not work at all for a horse that is simply on its toes or one that shies at things that would make many horses shy. However, if the problem is anxiety then calmers can be really good, especially if the anxiety is due to an imbalance in magnesium. My boy was jumping out of his skin all of the time and two hours after feeding him Top Spec Calmer he was a changed horse. I now keep him on it all of the time.
 
My 3 yr TB is on blue chip karma once a day
Took him off it for a few days as I ran out and he was a changed horse.
Napping ... Shying at EVERYTHING, even leaves. It just wasn't him. A few days after he was back on it i was amazed. It must keep his head level!
However it had no effect on my previous TB. So I think it definately depends on the horse :)
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A friend of mine, who doen't normally swear by any feeds/supplements etc for this sort of thing, told me that she couldn't fault 'relax me' I think irish supplements or something make it, it's for sale in countrywide and not even that expensive, when her very big, young enthusiatic dressage horse went onto it, she was actually able to have him stand at a show on a loose rein, without him carting her off across the next ring!!!!
 
Thanks everyone. I went and bought some (My1st choice as recommended was out of stock, typical) and got a twin pack of naf magic calmer. Brill improvement straight away and hes focused better on work in hand. In fact so much so my eh trainer i guess whos schooling him said he was like butter to flex when asked!!
 
I know you have got sorted with something now but just thought it was worth mentioning that I recently bought a new horse that was a little bit "Aware" I cannot say she was sharp or spooky but she was just a bit too "nosy" when you school her looking for something to jump out at her and in her stable she always seem to grab a mouthful of hay and then need to know what was happening on the yard, she looked a little stressed out if that makes sense bless her!

I was recommended Equine America's Magnitude which is Magnesium supplement and it has made a big difference, she looks much more relaxed and alot happier with life in general, she is so much softer and relaxed and is much more workeable, it just seems to have taken the edge off her.

You feed a small amount daily and the pot is £18.99 and lasts 6 months so not breaking the bank either.

Just thought it was worth a mention.
 
I have just bought Top Spec Karma for my lunatic mare and she is now back to her normal easy self. She was literally jumping out of her skin before and I have to admit I have cut her feed drastically too but she has always been very nosey and aware of everything. Now she is far more relaxed and able to take things in without exploding.

Such a relief.

I have also used Magnitude and once the Top spec liquid is used up I will try and switch over to the magnitude as so much cheaper.
 
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