Which Calmer?

TinkyMole123

TinkyMole123

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Ive bought Equine America Super So Kalm Powder for my 5Yr old that has a tendancy to Nap and get silly thinking a calmer might help reduce his burst of adrenaline and help him to focus on what im asking him to do?
Tried a syringe calmer same make, but didnt affect him that much was thinking a longer term daily fed calmer might work?

Have also looked at the Equiform range

Any success with this calmer or any other reccomendations?

Thanks
 
I used equimins calmer - and think it worked well (just used one tub) - I noticed a difference after a couple of days but have now just purchased pure magnesium and seems to be working equally well and much cheaper! I think it depends what your horse is lacking - my land is known for being low in magnesium.
 
Highflinger said:
I used equimins calmer - and think it worked well (just used one tub) - I noticed a difference after a couple of days but have now just purchased pure magnesium and seems to be working equally well and much cheaper! I think it depends what your horse is lacking - my land is known for being low in magnesium.
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did you have similar issues or just with concentration?? where did you get your magnesium from ??
 
TinkyMole123 said:
did you have similar issues or just with concentration?? where did you get your magnesium from ??
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Hello Tinkymole
Mine was spooky - nervous about silly things like squirrels running up trees, rabbits on the grass verge and birds flying about. He also was doing a lot of sudden shooting forward and random spooks at "nothing". Always on "high alert" out hacking - not what you would expect from a native type pony. Has been sooo much better since being on the calmer/magnesium.
I purchased the magnesium from ebay - if you message me I can give you the seller name don't think it is allowed to post something like that on an open post
 
Mine goes a bit spooky when the grass comes. I tried Dodson and Horrell placid which is all just herbs, its about £10 a tub and it worked a treat. He was focused when being ridden and stopped jumping out of his skin every few seconds. It sounds to good to be true but within a week he was a different horse.
  • Chamomile
  • Lemon Balm
  • Vervain
  • Magnesium
  • Lime Flowers

I really liked it, no doubt i'll be buying some soon :)
 
I use Hack Up Bespoke products as they can be changed as my horses needs change. I have recently refined mine to include help for muscle building as he dropped off somewhat after a gas colic at New Year. Really set him back, but hes now back to how he looked before.
 
Not always, as I've found. The ones without worked best on my horse, all natural ingredients and fresh. You can refine it to suit your horses changing needs too. Hack Up Bespoke will be what my horse stays on.
 
LegOn said:
Calmers need to have the active ingredient L-Trtpotophan to produce a stress reducing response. If they are pure magnesium they will work on horses that are deficient in magnesium.

I've had great sucess with this one: https://www.horsehealth.co.uk/supplements/calmers/calmer-powders/anxikalm-compete-powder
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Not true. there is no evidence that magnesium has any calming effect at all. And there are issues regarding L-Ttrptophan as well. There is a peer reviewed paper somewhere on both ingredients.
 
Hack Up ? I have no idea how they do it and how someone with no experience of making supplements and with no licence can get away with making bespoke supplements based on owners filling in a form. No medical background, no blood test results. Nothing, just fill in a form and we'll make something up and charge a fortune. So many charletons in the horse world.
 
KautoStar1 said:
Not true. there is no evidence that magnesium has any calming effect at all. And there are issues regarding L-Ttrptophan as well. There is a peer reviewed paper somewhere on both ingredients.
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Interesting - must have a look for that research, last research I read was on L-Ttrptophan and how helps with with reduction of stress so must be out of date now. I did find a massive change in my horse on that calmer, so just anecdotal evidence then!
 
Magnésium is only going to have an effect if your horse is deficient in magnesium. It works as a « calmer » only-you in that muscles deficient in magnesium are tight and sore, so when you resolve the deficiency the muscle soreness goes away, the horse relaxes as there is no underlying muscle tension.

L-tryptophan has actually been shown to increase startle responses - it has no calming effect.
 
Casey76 said:
Magnésium is only going to have an effect if your horse is deficient in magnesium. It works as a « calmer » only-you in that muscles deficient in magnesium are tight and sore, so when you resolve the deficiency the muscle soreness goes away, the horse relaxes as there is no underlying muscle tension.

L-tryptophan has actually been shown to increase startle responses - it has no calming effect.
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and most horses in the UK at least, are not mag deficient.
 
LegOn said:
Interesting - must have a look for that research, last research I read was on L-Ttrptophan and how helps with with reduction of stress so must be out of date now. I did find a massive change in my horse on that calmer, so just anecdotal evidence then!
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I'll try and find it for you.....
 
KautoStar1 said:
Hack Up ? I have no idea how they do it and how someone with no experience of making supplements and with no licence can get away with making bespoke supplements based on owners filling in a form. No medical background, no blood test results. Nothing, just fill in a form and we'll make something up and charge a fortune. So many charletons in the horse world.
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They do open days so you can see exactly how. Its all based on individual cases in that instance. From experience when the horses needs change they refine the product so then it is tailored again to the changes in the horse. I think it scares people as it is more common sense than anything. And they are not as expensive as some other popular brands either. I've used various calmers and this Hack Up one works, I now use the joint product too. Now they are into reducing plastics which is even better for the environments so that's gotta be a good thing. I'm trying to do my bit, I've gone from shampoo in bottles to solid shampoo bars. Hopefully many other will follow as a feed room is a plastic paradise!
 
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